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Well, hello, and welcome to WatchWalker Opera.
And this is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and let's depart one. Okay, it's before this one.
I'm buying, enjoy the show. So now it's later, it's 848 p.m. And Carl is sitting with Darren KJ on the couch. And KJ's like, what do you do for fun, Dara? Like, what's your hobby?
Am I flirting? And she's like, I read, I like to read. Well, it's like a really good hobby, actually. She's just, yeah. And I go to the movie alone a lot.
I can't stand other fucking people right next to me. They're popcorn. What do we not popcorn? It's still loud. Stupid America.
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Oh, yeah, I watch movies myself.
That's like my favorite thing to do. Watching movies myself. So if you're trying to ask me to the movies, you see the problem in that, right? That would be two of us at a movie.
And I don't do that. We should go on a film forum date. Yeah, well, you're going to have to sit five rows behind me. What are they going to see at the film forum? That's my favorite part.
“The two people from somewhere else are going to go to film forum?”
What is a film forum? What is that? It's like an art house. Like, it's indie, down the village, movie theater. I meant there, and I remember going there in high school.
Because in high school, I had this whole, like, I'm art sea phase. And I would go, I would take the train down to the city, and go see movies at the Angelica Film Center. Yeah, I would go.
Yeah, you know.
And I remember seeing, like, Foxy Brown at the film forum,
because I was very much into, like, wow. Next location. What are you seeing? John Ruh. Foxy Brown.
Is film forum the same as Angelica? No, but they're like, right near each other. And they're the same thing. You just see really documentary or a forum film or something. And you're, like, sophisticated.
I mean, you actually are. I might make it sound like it's pretentious. Like, it's legitimately sophisticated. And, like, we don't have that in Los Angeles. Like, there's literally nowhere to see
in a pen of films in Los Angeles. It's nice. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I think there's, like, maybe one place.
Even though, even the movie theater on sunset, sunset and crescent, that that one used to have some of them. But now they have now to big CVS sign. Even though there's still a movie theater in there. I think it's all wicked fucking CVS sign up there.
It makes me crazy every time I see it. It's so disrespectful. It's like, there's a town of movies. Get the fucking CVS sign off of there. Put the movie signs back.
I literally saw wicked for good in that theater, which formally was the place to see your independent movies. Yeah. I see a book for good there. You gotta go see them on the, like, a big, crazy screen.
“Of course, then you have to deal with all the idiots in there.”
Yeah. I didn't want to go to the Grove. I remember the Angel. I saw clerks at the Angelica film center, film vet, whatever. And, yeah.
That I feel like is the most 90s thing I could have ever done in my life is seeing clerks at the Angelica. Yeah. I saw a lot there. I saw, like, big fish. I saw a lot of them.
I'm not big fish. The one with, who cares? Nobody cares about this. Okay. Rumble fish.
No, the one with, um, never mind. Merino Donald? Yes, Merino McDonald. Yeah.
Not big fish? No. It was something else with the fish. It's go fish. Something like that.
Okay. So something fish. The fish report. The fish report. The fish report. The fish report.
Merino McDonald does the fish report. But we should also buy the way of resurrect Merino McDonald. Where she is? Passion fish. Passion fish.
Passion fish. Thank you. Thank you. Great film. after Woodard. Yes. Well, I'll free. Love to her. Okay. So, um, they're talking about reading
movies and stuff and they decide to go on a movie date. So now we go to KJ and Jesse, and KJ's asking if Sierra's okay and Jesse's like, "I don't know. I'm gonna see her for more hours. Well, I don't know." And then Darren Bennett continued the continuing the flirting in his room. So, Derek goes from KJ and goes to get some more Ben Flirts. And, um, we see, and she's pretty good. She isn't. She is a really good flirt. I mean, she's like, "So, hey, what are you doing?"
And he's like, "Lang on the bed." Oh, really? What are you a big bedlayer? Love bedlaying.
“Yeah, maybe I'll lay him right here on the bed. It's like, "All right. Oh, is it all right? Is it all right?”
'Cause beds are great. This bed's calling me." He's like, "Okay." You ever see a movie alone?
I do.
Sorry. I was still thinking about movies. You know what I love? Marissa Tomey and the future film in the bedroom, which is where we are. So, uh, barely is watching this and she's like, "Oh, my God. I have to tell you something, Levi."
First of all, "Wow. Levi are here." Second of all, Darren Bennett, "Wow. He's gone. He's locked in.
“They're locked in. It's over. I lost my chance. It's done. It's done." And Levi's like, "Really?”
She cracked him." Totally cracked. Like, it looked like they were on the bachelor. I mean, I even brought in the sweet green salad and I can't even give it to him. It's too late. The aperture is closed. Darrell, walking around, BB your lashes at every boy. They'd like melted and them like melting. I mean, this could be realized. I do not stand a chance. What she was, what I was doing with bed, that was not flirting. Why don't I know how to flirt everybody?
She just in her own little modern Jane Austen storyline on this show. Everyone else is just partying and getting drunk and she's just like pining after people in the corner. She's very like, "I'm on a shell and my story line is I don't know how to flirt and I'm gonna hit it home in every single scene that I do." So then, me and Sierra are creeped out because they're in bed and something keeps making their doors shake. Oh my God, it's the gust. The ghost of Turkey lugs past. That was a
really good runna software. Thank you. Thank you everybody. It's so runny all that. Y'all. It was the gust of
me because I started going upstairs and then I realized, "Wait a second. I'm downstairs now. I'm in the
mix. So I left." So the ghost of me up on the second floor. What kind of thing? Oh, uh, next morning, I'm just our cleaning everyone. So they're cleaning and there's all this junk in the backyard and Jesse is like trying to make small talk with Sierra and he's like, "hey, so do you plan this week?" It's just like, um, long pause, long pause, long pause. Just gotta clean my apartment. Get some furniture delivered. Not hanging out with you. He's like, "so can we have a segment of
old men complaining about things?" Because this, I mean, I know that's our whole show pretty much. I'll leave it on my end. But, um, this, how they were cleaning up the backyard was so annoying. Well, first off, she had a trash picker upper, which I liked. You know, she had one of those grabby things instead of touching with her hands. Okay, that's not my problem. They were taking all the booze and all the cans and emptying them just all over the grass. That's disgusting.
Do you do that? Do you find that acceptable? I was like, no, hell no. And if I was renting out
“that house, I would be pissed. I would be marking that down. Let's fly. I think of where I would,”
try to get where I would pour the booze out. I'm like Jenny leeched a bucket and then you take it into the sink. I think I think what I would do is I would gather everything and bring it to the kitchen and pour it down the drain. Yeah. I don't know. So what sometimes, okay, here, sometimes when I'm outside, well, it's a bad example, because I've got to, I've got a drain in my driveway. So sometimes, if I get home and I have nothing but like a little bit of ice in my coffee that I had in my car,
I'll pour the ice down the drain in the driveway. But I don't just like pour it into the, into the plants. Yeah. Gotta think about that one. You know, leave a comment, everyone. We're like hundreds of cans, just pouring them all up. I was horrified. I was like, have dare you treat my property like this. Even though Westfield is the least of that grass as issues. Is the, is the lover boy, you know? I guess a lot of others like a turkey leg would fly all over it. Just yeah, that was disgusting.
I was mad at that. I was like, who is the person just threw a turkey leg down on the ground? Like, you're a monster. Yeah. So Jesse said, oh no, I can tell here. He's doing a frown face. He's like, "I can tell tears. I'm saying, I'm hoping it's not at me, but I'm afraid it is. I just feel like
no matter what happens, I always miss him." So now they all leave and, um, Carl, uh, whispered the KJ,
he's like, "Hey, you know what's the cruiser about what he's called? That kid. I pay for half of it." And I said, "Oh, and half of it is not crazy. It's only half a car." That's like a car.
“I can't over it. That's how I feel every time I pass a school. I'm like, I paid for that school,”
everyone was seriously. Seriously. KJ is like, "That would trip me out, bro. Like, to be honest, like, ah, that would trip me out more than me not thinking about my sisters when I hit on girls. I'm just trying not to be a lover boy." Well, I mean, it is a trip, but I mean, it couldn't have gone better because I just didn't want it to be awkward for anybody else to argue about the KJ. Oh, so Lindsay can have it. You know, I'm a good person. I'm a good person.
I gave Lindsay that KJ off. So, she's welcome. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Carl. Um, then, um, everyone just has to buy a nail leaf. Now we're in the city. So it's Monday, Kyle and West play golf. They go to like one of those indoor golf places where you hit the balls
Out of the screen.
ravine your relics. Just taking things in all the outlets to make sure the baby is fine.
“I'm surprised you didn't do that for Carl to be honest. And then, oh my god. And I have the baby”
burned those because I have a genius, baby. It's like, no genius, babies do not stick their fingers in outlets. So it's just a baby on the way around, right? Yeah, they're baby, baby. Just a baby. Well, I guess you were saying it's genius because Jenna will jump out. Well, take the she'll know how to take the covers off or something. But also, or she's so inquisitive as a baby that she wants to touch every hole. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappiness commercial.
Then we have a KJ meeting up with for Dara for drinks at this place called like 80 Tuesday Anton. And KJ is like, hey, I just texted you. You did, because I didn't get a text. You wanted to drink without me. Wow. Sorting up on the strongest of notes. Real weird. Okay, bro. Like, I could be like hang out with a nostril ambassador and this is how you treat me. Okay. Fine. Oh, man. Wow. I didn't leave me in the mess up. It's like, okay, well, I'm going to give
you a hug. Because otherwise, it'll just feel weird for the rest of the time. So let's do this. Let's just get the hug over there. Okay. You've been hugged. Congratulations. So he gets her a drink and he gets her, he gets himself a matching drink, a matching spritz. But he's also got his Guinness there. So, man, this guy's not kidding around. Like, for his date, double fisting it. You go. So KJ is like, after the party, like, we were definitely texting and talking on the phone
face timing. And, you know, like, I didn't want to get into a relationship this summer, because I'm a lover, boy, but we'll see how that goes. Ha, ha, ha. So she's like, oh, I see you're so wearing my earrings. He's like, yeah. And when I wake up, I thought of you every day this week.
“Oh, well, that's, that's really excited. Exciting. And she's like, so am I blushing?”
Am I blushing? Because I hope I'm not. He's like, yeah. So I'm going to tell you this, like, literally after I gave a tour of the backyard. I was like, well, this is kind of like a fun experience. Like, this would be great. But then like, all of a sudden, I saw Ben and I was like, damn, because like, I mean, you guys were like, talking and like, he's giving you attention stuff. And like, then I started to feel a certain type of way when you were in Ben were talking. But I was like,
dang, I'm like, I actually like her. Like, like, sir, to me, I was like, is this this count as game? You're talking about another guy. And then you're also kind of saying that you're jealous.
You're already showing your jealous. Yeah, the sort of thing that was having a first date. Like,
yeah, I mean, I like you, but I think you liked that other guy. And he's like, way hotter than me. Like, what are you even doing with me? That have been like, what are you even doing? What are you doing, bro? Stop. He's like asking for pity, but also showing jealousy. But then also spending it, like, it's some sort of sign of dedication. And he's just like, yeah, I mean, that was nice.
“I just want to clarify, because like, I think I'm like not trying to make you feel like it's like some sort”
of like weird competition. He's like, so you don't like Ben? I mean, no, but everyone likes Ben. Come on. Say you like Ben, say you like it. Oh my god, stopping disappointed hearing that I don't like Ben. I mean, what the hell? And he's like, whoa, but like, everyone likes Ben. Like he's even given me a halfy. And like, I mean, he's a male model. He's mature. Like he's in his 30s. He's got hair. She's like, um, aren't you a male model, too? And he's like, yeah, but I'm just like a baby male model.
I'm like an ostrich male model who does skateboard tricks. It's a different. Well, I mean, I can see like girls would like him for sure, but for me, there's like, there wasn't a lot of chemistry, just some hair. Like, wow, have you felt chemistry with us? She's like, yeah, I don't think I would have relinquished the time to come here if I didn't feel the chemistry. Wow, you felt chemistry. Honestly, they just kind of annoying on a day.
I have to say, just reading it back. I'm like, this is really annoying. I don't, I would not like this at all. He is. And I thought someone like her, I mean, she's just so selfish, sure, and confident. I thought she'd be like, oh my god, you're a worse. Like, I need it. I cannot, with I thought she was going to be a good lady. Good to meet ya. No, absolutely not, but she liked it. She loved it because he's like, this is all new to me. This summer, I was like,
all right, I'm going to be single. I'm going to join myself and have a good time. Like, why are you saying that part, too? This summer, I just want to sleep around a lot, you know? Well, but he's also getting it in there. You see, so I, the part of me is like, he's just tricking me because he's also getting
it in there just like they always do. Well, I'm not really looking for anything. This is my
summer of fun. So, we'll see. She's like, so you want to be single, and he's like, well, I did, and then they laugh. So now we got a car all. He's like, oh my god, it's software. Okay, this is a great hallway. Um, that staircase? Wow, look at that. There's like a landing there. We could put a DJ
Booth there.
software. We've been doing pop-ups, and we're doing events, and just like talking about the good
guard clause. But the goal is always open with an actual location. Like, it's like, I have
my team. We've been like working together on getting a place up and running. And like, we're going to be opening public litos. I'm, I promise. It's happening. Like, a sweater, it's going to happen. And for, I mean, for as many times, I said, like, this might not work. God, I wish I could bunk myself on the head with a trick you like. Am I right? Oh, no, it's going to open. It's going flush back to Lindsay. Um, you always say what you want to do. But there's not a lot of
movement towards actually doing anything that you want to do. Promise it's going to open. So Ben comes to check it out. And he's like, this is who I love New York, because I love being
“around people who have an idea. And they go for it. Doesn't that feel good? Doesn't that feel good?”
New York is the only place where that happens. Unfortunately, is the only place where people have an idea and go for it. So I'm so glad he's in New York too. Um, so Carl's like,
who here's the soft bar has a 24 foot high ceiling. Oh, which is amazing. He's like,
well, from my entrepreneurial perspective, which I don't have since I'm just a model, it takes a lot of balls just to do something like this, especially having a non-alcoholic bar as well. I mean, it's really ambitious. What an interesting idea about it does not save cocktails. It's really strong for the fences. And it looks phenomenal. It's just, fortunately, those fences are very, very far away. They re far away. But you know what they say.
That's the way the cookie crumbles. Thank you. Doesn't that feel amazing. Thank you. So I'm looking at the reviews for software. They're pretty good. There's only four,
“which is weird, right? Well, surprise. Well, I'm surprised that there's only four.”
He got one one star. She said, I've had amazing zero-proof cocktails, and these just don't
measure up. It's like they did their sampling in a region that thinks mannys is spicy. Both the Mr. Field Good and the high road aren't what I described as elevated or worth the price point. There are other options nearby. Spend your money there. Well, at Williamsburg, really going hard on the soft bars. They've got a lot of them. But he's also got a bunch of four stars. And so he's good. He's got like a four. He's got a four point one rating on the up. So that's pretty good. This place is
awesome. Carl killed it. Great drinks. Very chill spot. Free Wi-Fi. And supporting people empowering their lives. Yummy drinks. Great atmosphere. I like the concepts. Cognitive and cocktail. And he paid for half of Lindsay's Kia. Four stars. I feel like I'm in a beautiful roomy SUV, but only half of it.
“I mean, the place looks great. It'd be interesting to see. We should make a trip to it next”
summer. Although we have to go all the way to Brooklyn for it. It's only the first stop on the train on the L. That's my old stop. He has where I used to live. The L. The L. Yes, like the first stop off the L. I guess if it's in Williamsburg. Hold on. The old old man. He's a soft man. He got off on that for them. Pretty sure. I haven't really looked it up on the upspot. Someone who lived in Williamsburg for about six years. Yeah. Pretty sure that word is. I can tell you where the sea town is.
That's my favorite place. Sea town is like an insult. Go back to sea town. That's before. I even the before crappens was even a dream. I used to go to a place called sea town. Oh, you guys. Oh, what a dream. Okay. So then Ben loves it. And Ben's like how much longer do you have five weeks, three weeks am I flirting with you? Oh, no. Because everyone thinks I'm flirting. Okay. No. We've got three weeks to finish. Three five weeks opening. It's going to be
a match. I was going to be a match. I was going to be a match. You know what? I'm not coming this weekend because I got to be here. I got to be here. I got to decide like how are we going to have a DJ on that stair landing without them falling backwards and breaking back. Thank you. Because he was like, wow, just bringing this space. I got like so many ideas. Like look, we could put a DJ out there. It's like, it's got tiny stair. It's there. We landed. That's got to be a fire code issue to put
a DJ set up up there. So why were you just doing so many things here? If you're going to put something on the landing, have your DJ be like an air in like a Alexa that plays music, you know, where you're pod, whatever those are called. So then yeah, they just talk about it. So then cars like, oh, actually, you know, like, we have a lot of people that work with our founders of non-alc companies and you know, Jesse invested some other close friends and family. I've
like some influencers. I've some athletes, you know, like people who play ball. You know, different kinds of ball. All different kinds of ball. Yeah, but not Kyle. Well, no, to be honest, like he's got so much other shit to worry about with lover boy. And you know what,
Like, let's also be out of Kyle doesn't throw a ball.
yeah, I invested $15,000 in 2019 in love. Well, I have a lot of money back in 2019, but I just
“I believe in him so much. And I knew the power of what he was building. And I really thought like,”
there was something there. So I hope, but maybe for the same return, but he was like, I'm just not in a position to invest and the message it sends is kind of confusing. Um, the message is actually pretty clear to me, which is he doesn't believe what you're doing. I'm like you who said that lover boy, you said that you felt like you felt the power of what he was building and that there was something there. I think Kyle is saying, I don't know the power of what you're building. And I
don't think that there's something there. So I'm not going to spend the money on this. We had to
do for Kyle to spend the money. And then he did make salary by being hired there when he couldn't
keep a job anywhere else. He made some decent money with lover boy. So I'm not going to totally does Kyle on that one. And we do know that Kyle is completely broke because he just had to take 15 grand out of, you know, he had to, he had to, whatever to get his $5,500,000 to keep lover boy float. So he probably just doesn't have it. So I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I do get like I invested in yours and you're not going to invest in mine, but I don't know, your broke your broke. What are
you going to do? Yeah. Yeah. I think I told him to say why Carl would not be happy about that. I would not take that away from him, but I also feel like, oh, maybe he just doesn't want to throw away
“$15,000. But we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. That's what my piss it into the wind.”
That way you're saying. I'm just saying that Kyle had a child. You know, look, I can see how Carl would be annoyed. But I also, you know, I'm not going to be fooled by Carl again. I've been fooled by Carl too many times. This is Carl time porno. And I'm not going to fall for Carl's victim act. Like, well, really hurts me. The Carl couldn't invest. You got like, yeah, you got a lot of money. You got a lot of investors. It's working out. Cry outside. Yeah. Let me say. We'll see.
We'll see how it goes. I think also like Kyle has a proven track record, like going into love boyhead a track record as someone who does start up. So he had the cat bird dog, cat dog, whatever it was that he was doing the shorts like he does this and it was a product that he could bring on to the show that he could hack every single week and like he could bring out to the world. You know, so like, there's a lot of upside. I think with soft bar, it's just a little harder because
it's like, Hall, our honor, Hall. But like, it's it's more difficult because it's like a location off of Brooklyn and and like Carl has no track record and it's a little scary. Yeah. So far today, we're driving to the Hamilton's now, softly. But without me, worrying about the DJs times, it's huge. So West KGA, that's the boy's car. And West is like, what's up, you fucking brat? Hey, I was your boy's this week. Well, I got a Texas weekend from
my friend Regan. She works at 82 Staten and she's like KJ's literally here on a date, right? Now, whoa. Oh, wow. We still like you, girl. He's like, oh, it's Dara. Dara had that come about. Um, we were hanging out at the party and I gave her a little tour of the backyard. And Jesse's like, yeah, oh, he knows that backyard like the back of his head. They just start joking like here's the pool and here's the pool. So Jeff is like, so KJ says, yeah, like we hung out. We had a few drinks.
And like, yeah, we're buzzing. And then we went to Tyler the creator because he had a show. I'm like, sir, I know that's that sounds like a great time went to Tyler creator. No, it's not a great show. I'm sure. But you said, you were getting another film for him. And I was waiting for a film for him update. What movie did you see? How is the documentary? Did you make out afterwards? And I feel a little bit lied to. Um, did you get a kiss? Good night. He's like, yeah, I got a kiss. And then she came
over yesterday and we made dinner. And just he's like, what? Oh my god, you're basically married.
Then what happened? He's like, well, I love this morning. So they're like, whoa, why are you about laying down? Oh, did you say that she came over to his place? So for him to say, I love this morning. Wouldn't you be doing that anyway from your place? I don't know. I get to do what you say. But I get to just what he's saying. I didn't even catch that. He's like, no, I want to leave my house
“after it. But well, I did leave that today. But I think that's what he meant. Yeah, I'm probably”
thinking and he's like, uh, and just he's like, oh, and Ben's back here silent. He must be devastated. Did you ask permission? And KJ is like, well, Ben, you know, say some shit, please, man, like, how do you feel, bro? I mean, it's like, might I'm all for it. I'm listening. I'm not going to say we didn't have a vibe. I only think at one point she said, I'm cold, and I said, because the fence on.
Very good stuff.
available in our house, don't you wish we had someone like that around her? Well, too bad.
“Yeah, too bad. So sad. But listen, I'm so happy for you. I think it all went great for you,”
and I'm rooting for you. Good suit. Good suit, man. Thank you. Good suit. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Good, because I never want anything to come between the boys.
So now we go to Bailey and Levi arriving at the house first for their wacky practical jokes. Yeah. They have, like, a plant, plant costume, and that comes like a little, little planter, and you sit in it, and then you look like a house plant, but then we'll be walking. And you go, boom. So they set that all up. And then KJ, while they're doing that KJ is like, hey, Jesse, I also had coffee with Sierra yesterday, and I guess word got back to her about what
you said to Wes somehow. And then Wes goes, yeah, because of Lindsay, like, don't act like, oh, because of Lindsay, she told you she was going to say something, and you could have been like, please don't say something. Let me handle it. You told, you basically said to her, go do it. Like, you can get a place to do it, but it could be your place to do it. And then now he's like, he's like, oh, man, she's so mean. Why was she betrayer? I trust like that.
Yeah. So, um, Jesse's like, well, I texted her just checking in on her. She didn't respond. So it figured something was off. Don't like, yeah, it's a test situation. Oh my god. So dramatic. So Bailey and Levi are now dressed just plants and they're carrying around pots. And they're like, oh my god, let's hide in the front room, able to get to the betweens. It's going to be so greedy. So the first group arrives and they're like, uh, then the second group arrives like, uh,
then the third group arrives and they're like, uh, uh, then the fourth group. Okay, is this going to be an hour-long thing? I enjoyed it actually. Um, partially because I thought it was funny, partially because I knew it was something we could go back quickly on the recap. But um, I did enjoy it. Although I got, you know what, I felt so bad for CRS. Yeah, it was like pouring rain and see I went running to go inside and she just wiped out right in that staircase. I was like,
L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We, L. We first, I'm surprised. She wasn't hurt. I know, seriously. Choose the also the only one who was not phased by this plant. She walked in. She's like, what's that? No, I'm sick. You guys are okay. I'm serious. So this went on for a little while. And, uh, I sort of concluded with the guys and the guys, the guys car arriving. So now there's hugs and Bailey's like, do that smell bad? I'm slutty and Jesse is like, yeah, you smell better.
“I think the answer's supposed to be like, no, you smell okay. Yeah, I was banned. He was like,”
you smelled better. I was like, oh, gosh, it's poor girl. So then, uh, Sierra's kind of, you know, just kind of ignores Jesse. And he's like, can we talk before dinner? Like, yeah, whatever. So then, uh, Western Banner watching the rain. And Derek, wow, this is what life saw the bat watching drain, watching, watching, watching it rain. How do you think Jesse's doing? He's like, well, she's mad at you. It's really not good about it. That's for sure. Yeah, so Sierra and Jesse
go up to a room. And he's like, well, I just feel bad because he has his frown face, his trapezoidal frown face. And he's like, sort of doing that thing. We're like picking up, he's like lying on the bat on the side and like picking up like the quilt with his fingers and like looking down. He's like, I just feel bad. I mean, the boys are telling me that when I said to Wes, would you be upset if I made those, you know, you look upset? And they said, that made you feel like a certain type of way.
And like, I feel bad that it like made you feel that way. Because I didn't mean anything by it. I just feel like if we're getting flirty, I just want to be clear. It's from West perspective
in our friendship. It was something that I was never going to pursue. You know, he's just saying
“words that like, have no meaning behind them. Yeah, I think it's just probably brevity.”
It's his would be his friend here because he's saying like, listen, we're getting flirty. And I didn't want Wes to be offended because that's breaking brocoed. So I had to ask him how I felt about it. So I asked him in kind of a joking way. That's it. But it's like five paragraphs. Like, whoa, I mean, so she's like, but you didn't mean anything by it. And he said, well, I mean, I didn't know what my intention was. Like, I don't know where your head's at. And I just saw it
was like the right order of operations like check with your boy. And then if he cares if he's still hung up, then like I wouldn't even think about it. You know, because that's not what boy's new to boy. Because, you know, we learn very early on in the morning. She's just like waiting
from to finish, but he never does. I'm sure you know the feeling on this button. It's just way to
You.
taxes for children to go to school and my district, not only to have children. No, that's me to you. That's like, and then there's one time when I was like, I don't know, 14, I went all the way down here in Jalika Film Center and I saw the movie not yet. It has a black white movie about a vampire. How was young? Oh, I love that. I'm looking at you in the video screen. There he goes. See, the memories as they happen. It's my man talks about him. My man, my man, my man, go to the
Jalika Film Center. See, you're, I think what Jesse should be doing in the situation is just asking
Sierra how she feels and like rather than just coming in like boom, here's what I was doing. And
this is why I like don't be mad at me. Like, why don't you see, like check how she feels and you can address it. I don't actually think the instinct to check with your boy, you know, to make sure everything's cool is like the worst instinct in the world, but it isn't like the sense that the guys are treating her like like, oh, she has no saying that that's a bad feeling. It's kind of like he's kind of like doing love island rules where like, I think I want to have a conversation.
I'm going to have like, I'm going to put some on for a chat, but I want to let you know first. So like, and maybe in the love island villa, that seems like more realistic way to operate,
“but in real life, it actually just objectifies the other person. But I think you should,”
I mean, you should just do less talking. But if he didn't do it, we'd be sitting here like, oh my god, this is breaking bro code and your, your relationship from I do in that. I mean, just he can't be a douchebag and stuff, and I think he is a douchebag. But let's not over, you know, let's not undersell what a douchebag Wes is, too, because he did come to West, West, sorry that my, my came up like, well, he came to West, West, you know,
didn't have the balls to say anything about it really at the time until he was kind of forced to at the end, to be like, well, maybe that's uncool or whatever. But then West went and told every single person to get them to fight his battle for him, you know, and when they wouldn't, when he told all the guys, and no one thought the battle for him, he relied on Lindsay to do it. And then had Lindsay go in there and they got all the girls against Jesse, and then it's like he knows what it's like
to be in a bad situation in that house with all the girls, and he purposely did that to Jesse.
“When I think Jesse was actually just kind of doing the right thing, and West is just upset that”
Jesse would, would consider going for a cigarette all, because that's Jesse's, that's West's back burner show mats, not Jesse's. West doesn't have any intention for, for CRS. So I think West is also a huge piece of shit here, and I think that's a really shitty way to treat your friend. Fortunately, for him, the friend is Jesse, and I like watching Jesse get tortured. So, you know, it's a wash. I think that West's West should actually getting more shit in this situation, because I think
the normal order of operations would be. Jesse is catching feelings for Sierra, which is fine. I mean, it is a little bit of a, it is a kind of a violation of brocode, but he, first of all, he should pulled West aside privately, not with like a council of boys, and he should pulled West aside, and he should have been, I don't know, like, he should have stood in his feelings and said, I'm interested in Sierra, not be like, maybe I might like jokingly make a little,
he sort of hedges a little bit, like, don't be mad at me. And then West, I think, if the moment the
“West says, I don't, it's fine, I don't care. You have to actually be about that, because you can't say,”
it's fine, I don't care, or care, and then make, and then have other people make sure the message
gets to Sierra, because that actually is a violation of brocode, because I think if it never
got to Sierra, if it just became a thing of like, hey, I'm interested in this girl, I want to check with you first, because I don't want to like mess up our relationship, he says, go for it, and then Jesse makes moves on Sierra, I think that's like normal, I think that's like, okay, to do that. But because West then made sure Sierra found out that there are discussions held back and forth, it makes her feel more objectified than it is, and so that's at, believe
or not, like West is kind of the bigger brocode. West is the bigger asshole in this situation. Yeah, I agree, yeah, he made sure that she felt like this was the shooting, she knew that this was being discussed in a group with people in a laughing way, we're being taken very seriously,
it just made her feel like shit, so that was shitty of West, I think, ultimately, because obviously
you did care, so he wasn't even being honest, he should've been like, don't do that, like that, I don't like that. Yeah, I mean, they both just handle everything so stupidly, like, honestly, just, but then Jesse's also afraid, because he doesn't want to be in the situation where he has to be like, but I like Sierra, because then he's going to fuck that up too. He, I still think he just wants to fuck around, as much as he keeps saying, I want to grow up right now, that's for now,
He's not acting like it, so they're both just idiots, so, you know, and then ...
who I've already said, like I wish was just above all of this, and had just, I wish this thing was just her shooting down Jesse period, but, you know, you can't, I can't control a person's heart unfortunately, so you can't, you know what, you can't do it. The Hawke wants to do what, okay?
Okay, so what it wants, it's worth it. Sierra's basically like, I guess just weird that you're
clearing it with West before talking to me about it, it just made me feel like you think of me as a sexual conquest, and now it's your turn, you're just like, that's not how I was thinking about you at all, I wasn't thinking, in the first place, to well, but hearing that made me feel that way,
“and then I'm hearing it's a joke, make out what there was a joke, and if you want to hide behind a”
joke, like, okay, he's like, no, I wasn't making a joke, like if we make out, it would just be a joke, it would be a joke, so what you're saying, it would be a joke, it's like, oh, but I mean, I feel like we have a new trend, here's my frown, I'm going to frown smile and let you, I feel like we are going to traction moving till there, and we're also just friends, and I don't know
what I'm like hoping for, I don't know. Well, fucking figure it out, like what the hell are you going
to have a conversation, you've had a whole week to think about this, you did nothing, you didn't know Brad? No. Sierra is just, she has a nice little monologue here, she talks about how lines are so blurred, and I love you as a friend, and I'm obviously upset because I'm like, why is it that I can express that, like I want a boyfriend, and I want to be in a relationship, and I want to have a friendship with a person I'm with, and I want to eventually be married, and have kids one day,
and then you're just like, oh, you just like pictures, it was like, oh, this is just like a joke, let's have a good joke, hey, make out session, like if you're really interested in me, you would ask me, you ask him for permission to take, ask me out of a day, if you ask him for permission for fucking anything, not just to make out with me, do you see where I'm coming from, which by the way, that's a dumb question for her to ask, because I don't think Jesse will ever see anything.
He does anyone's coming from. At least it's clarified it for me, because the whole episode, I was like, oh God, this is so stupid. But I mean, I get this, so she's like, okay, well, at
“least ask for permission to date me and not just took up with me, you know, which I think is pretty”
clear, and of course he's still not going to get that. And he's like, well, sorry, I mean, do you feel like an ode, you know, I don't want you to feel like that, more like you're the stuffed animal you went in a carnival, you know, and that's more important, it's a bigger thing, oh, you're a prize, not an object, sorry to thought you might need a little bit of helping there. Great suit, guys, great suit. And Sierra's like, well, I mean, this is easy to put it on Jesse,
but like at 75% me, you know, because like, you know, I can feel like we have a good enough relationship for him to come to me and say things like that, but like this referring, reaffirms the theme in my head that people just want to hook up, and they just don't want anything serious, you know, and that's like, I can't get that out of my head. Yeah, and she has like a lot of baggage with her dad and her upbringing that I think informs all this. So she says, yeah, I just want
“to be seen in this friendship, and I think that's the only thing that I'm like the main thing I'm fighting for,”
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