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What I'm surprised by this, because suddenly I had turned the Q&A. You did it to me. It's like now I understand why Sutton really really sought out to room with Amanda. Kyle and Amanda are thickest thieves and Sutton is thinking shit. Am I on the wrong side?
I got to get back on their side. So she's willing to sabotage our friendship, that shit that has made leaps and boons just to score points with Kyle. And it's really pathetic.
“I think that is actually also a good theory.”
I think yes. I think Sutton for whatever reason has like some heart on. Come to us for Kyle.
She just wants Kyle's approval.
It's some psychological void that she has. That she carries with her since middle school of needing to be accepted by the Q&A. And I do think some of that is true. I do too. Yeah.
And I thought it was weird that Sutton is suddenly. She's like, let's be friends to read and then she's like, "Get the treat, get the treat." She's got this whole thing in Italy where she wants to see three held up. So Rachel's like, you know what we need.
Caffeine and Qtay. Yeah, I died for that. Oh my god. Can you send some caffeine and Qtay to Kyle's and the Hampton's? I think actually at one point she does say she does get Qtay. And she gets a Qtay princess for the kids.
Um, so by the way, I have to say this may be from the,
This may be naive band who doesn't have kids,
but if I have a 13 year old boy, I'm not getting the Qtay bracelet. Hell no, he's going to get a slap bracelet at most, a swatch. I don't know, but I'm not giving you a designer bracelet when you're 13 and watching you scoff it up or lose it, right?
No, sorry. Well we're not rich, you know, so rich people are. I'll just get him a little bubble, a little Gucci bubble. He deserves that. He went past my strides in school, so he gets that.
So Jennifer, Eric and Boe's Natalie earned a van and Eric is like, "A woman tell me I look like a lot of chill. I can't even begin to tell you how that made me feel good." Probably good actually. But Natalie, tell the group of you told me about Tega.
She's like, "Well Amanda was sharing with Kyle that she overheard you and both say something about a mask when we were on the Brit." Masks? What are you talking about?
“I said, "Look, they're those masks. I remember that."”
And I said, "That's a, that's a, come mask. Sweet, come on live with a mask. See it up, get COVID. We're still trying to take a little bit of the face." I thought I was the sexy one.
And I thought you said her name referencing a joke of some kind. No, I did not say Amanda's name and reference to a damn mask. She said, "Well we're so obsessed with Amanda." By the way, so it's all getting distorted here because it was Natalie who said, "Who would be the Pinocchio?"
And Boe said, "Amanda." And like Pinocchio means like, you know, the nose coming out the liar, right? But now they're talking specifically about like the conversations about mask. And yes, the Pinocchio was a mask. But they're making it seem like they were having a discussion about masks.
And who would be the most masked person? And so I think Boe's is like, I don't remember even having this conversation. So there were those who didn't like the literalist where it's like, "Well, I didn't say anything about the mask. I said something about Pinocchio."
So if you say that something about the mask, I didn't say something about the mask. Or do you think she just doesn't remember it all? I think it's all the above. I think she's being an accidental literalist.
“I think because I think if they said no, remember about the Pinocchio who'd be the Pinocchio”
instead of manage to be like, "Oh, yes, that." But because they're not, they didn't freeze it like that. They freeze it so it's almost like a little bit of a different conversation. I think she sort of doesn't remember because she's thinking too literally about it in this moment. So I think she looked genuinely confused. I thought, I didn't think it was fake.
I thought we all know she said it. She did too, but she did say it. And I'm also like, well, she's not dumb. She would remember saying that. So she just being like, why didn't literally say mask?
And it's such a stupid thing, like honestly, I cannot believe it. This fucking show. And now, you know, the next six weeks of our lives, we have to talk about this. Because it's going to be pretty fast. And it's going to be every five minutes on this show.
We're going to have to argue about this for six more weeks. So anyway, Kyle, but we go to Kyle Amanda and Kathy's man. And I was like, oh my god, I'm still surprised. I suppose said shut up. I always shut up.
Kyle, I get a live fucking Kyle.
The woman who really meant it as a joke, you know.
Do you, but do you like being in the butt of a joke?
She's like, a butt, you mean a bottom? It's like, okay. The butt of a joke. Kathy, come on. How would you be okay?
You would not like that. Like you would not.
“So both is like whatever weather or not it was said,”
is not the issue. But she really, if she really felt a certain way about what I said, then she should have just come to me directly. But she prefers to pull Kyle in so she can deflect.
And I don't play that game.
And that's exactly the problem. You know, Amanda's such a whist turned to me and say, hey, what the fuck? Don't go to Kyle and make it a whole episode and then try and get everybody on your side.
And why? And be a victim. You're a whist. You don't belong here. Kick her off the bus.
Well, you know where she did well. Last night, we actually explained what when she actually explained the cult to us. At least we have those stories of how, when, when, where, how, what, where, and both is like, well, but we still don't know what made it want to leave. And then we're going to say, well, let's ask Chaps.
So she goes to Chaps. Yeah, because only Erica would think that that was a complete story with the beginning middle in an inch. That was not. She just said she was part of a youth group.
She followed the youth group. She didn't like it. There was some unspecified, you know, pressure. And then she ran away. Well, once she said she ran away in the middle of the night,
but in the beginning of the season, she said, right after church, she ran to her sister's house. So I'm not sure if those, maybe church was in the middle of the night. I mean, I don't know. But so Erica pulls out the chat, GBT.
Yeah. When it comes to Amanda Francis, there's no credible evidence that she was ever part of a cult. Instead, what exists a number of criticisms and controversies. And both like, oh, wow. Let me look at this.
Not totally. I just have to say, Erica reading is so funny. It's like you really see the education system wherever Erica grew up. a crew up is like failing because she thinks. Hey, I shall take over our multiple post-accusers of misleading conduct, content and high pricing, and several users have raised concerns about her brand coaching styles, some feel her approaches mix, Christian language with new age manifestation in a way that's off-putting or manipulative.
“Hmm, and sounds like now I don't like this business bashing stuff. I don't like this girl. What are you talking about?”
Shut the fuck up back there. Quiet, be it this spooky. God, I'm gonna get the poster right through another letter taken away in the last name, idiot. Mr. Fond was like, let us be car. So, don't in Gabbana says, let us be car. Hmm, Sutton says, you know what Eric and Bose are doing to a man is no different than doing a deep dive of the cult. They can that to retit to a man to only this is kind of worse. Like, oh come on. Yeah, man, get up for she's a Christopher blogs. She wrote a blog about it. It's allowed to be discussed.
Yeah, seriously. So, then, Eric is like, well, don't ask chat to be talk about me, honey. Maz love just call me Escobar, for a moment room. I thought she was saying, like, they call me a fucking, but people, people, people, people, people. So, we go to the other van, and the man is like, "But jokes can be mean." Well, why don't you just ask her about it? I'm going to get something on my half-tail.
And back to Bose. She's like, "Ha, bread of, if she wants a fight, she can have one. I'll give it to her." Good. It's about time. I feel like, you know, I feel like Bose, I would like to see her in more conflicts just because I find her to be really funny and smart, and I just feel like she, she could just like destroy someone like an Amanda. So, then Rachel, now I'm in the van with Rachel and Rachel, and Rachel, Rachel, they, Rachel got her Gucci for the kids, and it's like, "Gee." I'm a firm believer in living life and enjoying.
I work hard, and I don't know if I told you this, but I haven't had a wrinkle in 16 years,
because Pika would always eat them before me. There, I said it, finally. But also, Bose told me
that Kyle was concerned that I might be manic. Could you even believe that? Like, um,
“you're literally washing all the windows inside this van right now. What are you talking about?”
They're dirty. It's just so I can do an Instagram with my hands up against the windows doing this. So, Rachel's like, "But haven't you, like, always spend my interest?" Literally, literally, and also, first of all, this building, and don't talk to me about boring and spending money. You didn't know what I earned, what I spent. I've 19 businesses doing things. Girl, you're not, like, money. Where are you talking about? I can't, never leave you.
Don't you Beverly Beach and the wedding dresses? What was that, oh, like, pearls? The pearl? The pearl is jamming dirty. Now, please welcome in the pearl. This one's called
The Blue J.
Boobily Beach! And if I show up tonight with my full Gucci bags, she'd consider that part of my
Munich Behaviour! Maybe I'll do it! I love when Rachel says, "But aren't you always like?"
She says, "Yes, exactly. I'm always like, like, she's like proud of it." I was just that manic. It's, it's a regular, okay? And Rachel goes, "Yeah, if someone called me, Mama, I can't, I can't." I put that friendship in a box. Oh my god, like, literally a box. Is it a Gucci box? She's trying to send it to kiosk in the mountains. So Rachel's, "I'm not sure your friendship is working, just seeing it out." And then, uh, now we go to back to Villa Bibiani,
and I want to rise and they're getting dressed because they're going to be having a pool party, which means they're supposed to be getting into bikinis, which of course, Dury would have, since she is the owner of a bikini business. Um, I don't think so. No, she does not have. I don't think, but I don't think that's still a thing, is it? Probably Beach. Let's look it up. She's a very beach. Was it ever taken away by this place? She's, let's be honest.
So it's under Amanda, are in their room. And they're trying on stuff. Amanda's putting on some crazy thing. She's like, "Is there something like swimsuity?" I'm Matt, and then there's a knock on the door, and, uh, Sun's bag arrives, finally, and Amanda's like, "I manifested that you get it before dinner. Remember, you probably manifested that every single day, and eventually it came true, 'cause this doesn't count." I'm looking, Boofily Beach. I'm sorry about it.
podcast break, Beverly Beach. You find anything? Uh, 471 posts, 75% off sale, Beverly Beach by Dury.com. Let me see when the last post was. It's a lady in front of a slide holding a baby,
“and it is from 170 weeks ago. I think it's Dury, maybe? Jumping on a trampoline?”
Not in a swimsuit. So, I'm a little confused. Little confused. Okay, Beverly Beach by Dury.com, error 1,000 DNS points to prohibited IP. So, yeah, that's definitely Beach. Molly, Beverly Beach. Yeah, like a whale. Beverly, breached. Um, it's backwards inside the womb. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap-ins commercial. So, set in an Amanda's room. Uh, I don't know. They're all talking about like what they're
going to wear to dinner, and no one's going to wear a swimsuit. So, uh, they start gathering at the bar, and Jennifer sees a guy and she's like, "Are you here to make us delicious drinks? Tabi yala is that your name? Federico. No. Daniela Leonardo." She's just, uh, in one of her videos where she just won't stop talking, like they just show her walking through the house, being like, "I love swimming pools. They're places where water goes to rest. Are these chairs?
“That's what people set on. I've always approved of chairs. Are we outdoors? I love outdoors”
because there's not as many walls." She has bandaged about every little thing. She's like, "I'd love to sit outside, and a nice Italian night." Both comes out. She's the only one in the bikini. She's like, "I thought this was a pool party." And Eric has like, "Is that like like that? It would be." She's got no kidding because her body is like a statue. It's like, "Oh my God. What a perfect body." And then she sits down even in the bikini. I'm like, "Oh, I thought it was in the bikini.
I would, that would never happen." But if I was, I wouldn't even sit down because I'd be like,
"Oh my God, what's happening down there?" But she's like, "Hello, I still look perfect." Even sitting down in the bikini. What do you think of that? Yeah. Well, I can't even get the pool. I'd have to wash my hair, and if there's chlorine in my turn green, and then what would happen if I actually have a good time, I'd actually have to be joyful and show some personality. I'm not going to do that. You'll never see me on a swim suit. You might see me on a pool without my swim suit."
And Kathy's like, "No, well, I don't want to get my hair wet." And I just know, "No." Rachel, where is your bathing suit? Um, "Are you okay?" Like, I'm wearing a calf ton.
“That's what I swim in. And by swim, I mean, I sit on chairs too much.”
So, Kyle's like, "Predits a pizza. I'm wrist-reel." So, Erica's telling us, "You know,
Dreads get on eggs." Like, "Last night, tonight, the good. Always wait, fucking Dread."
Well, they do say one of the early symptoms of mania is when you show up a little bit late, to a swim pool party. You know? I mean, by now, Dread being late is like a joke. Like, nobody expected a shop on time. Like, yeah, it's been like seven years of it. Why are you suddenly reacting to it now? So, Rachel's like, "Oh my God, Dread." Like, Dread is going on the pool. She's like wearing bikini. She's like hot. She's like doing so much. Oh my God. She's like, "No,
I can't go in, but everyone looks beautiful.
drop 45 minutes late and the pizza comes out and Amanda keeps on saying, "Is there a gluten-free
“pizza on the way? Can you let me know about the gluten-free pizza?" It's like, "Gloon-free is that coming?”
Any gluten-free?" God, you know, they must hate her. Like, "Well, that's free, yeah. What are these?" That is. Yeah, 'cause most people in Italy are like, "I don't even have to be gluten-free, 'cause I'm in Italy, and they do gluten-different here." Yeah. So, Amanda's like, I just really want my pizza. Where's my gluten-free? There's my, oh, it's just like you're whining even about that. Come on, it'll come. You're rich. Don't worry, they'll make you your gluten-free. Oh my God, thank you so much.
Wait a minute. Is this a pile of hair? It's gluten-free, huh? There's no gluten in here. Eat it, you stupid. Just put that on. So, both is asking if everybody feels good and Rachel's like, "It was a hard parcel, but like, I'm here now." So, it's all, you know, it's like my accent stop. But it got sorted, so my kids are gonna go to the Hamtons. I mean, it might not hurt her. It was like hard to know that, like, my kids were not in the Hamtons for a weekend,
but like, no, they're there. And I'm gonna have a zander look after them. Yeah, like they're going to learn to know that my kids are now in might-let-in. So, everything's fine. Go bring white linen and like black fedoras because like Zand is styling them as we get. So, sounds like, well, I don't know about y'all, personally, but I've been hearing bits and pieces today about lack not gossip, but like, you know, so, it was like, well, tell us about the conversation you were
having, and son goes, "Well, can I picked up this morning from our conversation last night? We talked to a man, and I was like, "Oh God, as if like Kyle was not the one who's been prompting everyone to confront each other tonight." And I was just like, "Oh God, are we really gonna have a confrontation tonight?" Yeah. Well, you know, and with the investigatory coat thing, you know, I would have been pissed. I would have been pissed. To be like, "Oh boy, the way,
liter moosey!" Like, "I'm a really little missy." "Oh, okay, okay, missy." And Kathy's like, "Um, by the way, Nancy drew." Like, wait, Saturn, when you shut up at Kyle's house, and you put your hand out to shake, I thought I want to give it a shot. Little by little, naturally and organically, we start to move forward. But then today, out of the blue, I hear that you're talking shit about me in my manic state. Well, unfortunately, if I hadn't been so busy cleaning everyone to an R-car,
and also in the nearest cathedral, I would have had to say something too much earlier. But unfortunately,
my work is never quite done. Manic manic manic. Well, how did I talk shit? How did I talk shit?
607, toothpick, 607, toothpick, 607, toothpick, 607, toothpick, toothpick, toothpick, oh, so I was like,
“"67, uh, 67, uh, 67, do we did some investigating on a moon that that's what you said?" Well, I wasn't talking shit.”
What are you suggesting? I did a gougy-laid deep dive." I didn't say Google. I said, "Hutbah, isn't that a search engine that you use?" So then, so then, then, Sun is like, "I mean, you said you Googled it. That's not at the table." And Kathy's like, "Well, you went and read the blog, you know, about the cult stuff." And Jennifer's like, "Satin, I Googled every person in the script, and I just think it's a natural curiosity."
Well, I didn't say Google Deep Dive. I mean, somebody else said that. I don't even know that term, Google Deep Dive. What is that? Well, didn't why did you say it? To read, to read, to read, to read. What if you're implying to her, Amanda, that she should be mad at me, because you would be mad at me. So now she has to be mad at me." I just said, if it were me, I would have had a reaction, and so therefore you should have
“reaction, because you should be like a little version of me, and covers there too. So we were both”
like asking Amanda, don't you feel something about this? So maybe you should be mad at Kyle. Okay, because remember how we were mad at Amanda for passing the buck over to Kyle, I'm going to not pass the buck over to Kyle, but you can't be mad at me about it,
because I've already been on the show. Because it's always Kyle. It's Kyle,
starring the pot all the time. So Kyle's like, "Well, I mean, you have a motion, and then you don't have a motion, and then you do have a motion, but not the motion we bought." But I was like, "Yeah, there's a little bit of that tool." So a son is saying, like that, she's like, "I'm just trying to do three or five for buck, exposing the situation, bringing it up to Amanda for them to shut out together, essentially. You know?"
Like, no, you're trying to get someone to fight with Doreet, because you still don't like Doreet. Okay, just got to it. So Doreet, Doreet, to us, is like, "Are you a total moron? Dude, what do you think I'm a total moron?" I mean, you want to get her to be more expressive.
I want her to express her own thoughts, not the thoughts you're putting in a ...
I was, didn't realize this little tiny blonde head. I thought it was just a giant potato chip for me to eat.
“Oh, so Kyle is like, "Well, I thought that's what was bothering you, Doreet, that Amanda wasn't”
having a reaction." And he was like, "Um, I have something to say." I was like, "Okay, let us speak for ourselves." I resent the idea that being calm and centered and grounded and emotionally regulated is fake. I try to practice not giving energy by the way. They're all rolling their eyes now, or perhaps evil. I try to practice not giving energy and space to every little thing, and I do not feel safe when we're at the dinner table. Like, that would normally be a
time to that choose to get vulnerable and open up more. But instead, I have felt emotionally unscathed. Oh, God. Fuck off. And Doreet's just crossing her eyes. She's like, "Good Jesus. Thank God, I have my life, Saviour. A Kuka Kula. I can't go anywhere with that Kuka Kula. Enjoy Kuka." Doreet has learned from the Kyle Richards school of reacting to someone else's speech, because Kyle is normally the one who bothers her eyes and looks down
to the right. But in this case, Doreet's like, "I'm going to do it too." So Erica's like,
“"But there's also a way to have tough conversations there." And it's like, if you want to have”
the conversation in the first place, but maybe you just want to go to the Hamptons. "Right. Kyle, I think you're making a face over there, but you know what I'm talking about."
She's like, "It's just a lot, honestly. It's just like a lot. Everybody's always coming friend,
I know." And she says that she knows why Amanda doesn't feel safe opening up to this group, because she's been on the defense, giving this, you know, all the time. It's poor amount all the defense. And so Rachel's like, "Yeah, but like emotionally and safe, that can also be a trigger word. See, I can do it too." It's like a generational thing, and as a member of the younger generation, I would like to say that, like, sometimes we use words, like, say, can honestly add just a little
different. That's it. "Oh, please, he's not monkina." Rachel's like, "But like, age 40 is not like age 25, so like, it's different." Yeah, but like, if you like subtract her age from my age, we're basically like 12 years old together, so like, it's fine. It's like a millennial expression, and I know that. As a member of Gen Z, guys. And Amanda says, "It is." Well, perhaps this environment is different for Amanda, with friends who actually hold her accountable.
And Rachel's like, "Yeah, you know, like, my Amanda problem is, like, are you the strongest,
most powerful, or are you like the weakest victim, because you can't be both, and certainly not at
the same time in the same day. When my kids run home, don't. "Are you the strongest, or are you the most most rise, just tell me?" And that is the thing about Amanda. She's like, "I'm a strong independent woman, but I can't be triggered." That's 100% right. I think actually Rachel nailed it. So Erica's like, "Well, they'll think that anything you've experienced the last weeks in this group comes anywhere near what the other woman I've gone through in this group,
“you should get in your car, drive away." I'm like, "I mean, it's true. It's also funny. It”
just be like, "Oh, shut up. We've all been through, whereas I'm going to know you in court cases every single day, and you will be too soon enough for your grift." Wayne tell them I'll blame you for having to read a 12-page article. That's something. The whole season of bullshit with these bitches. So Amanda's like, "My life belongs to going and coming here. I'm everyone to close her eyes."
People have said, "I'm certain it has been trying to stand up for her this whole dinner and it's like, "Oh, God." So Amanda, like, clearly she's like re-hashing some lines from her seminar because she's like, "I have cultivated, curated, and co-created, and manifested it intentionally this way." I was like, "Girl, you're not going to see her. A little raced all the way through." Cultivated, curated, co-created, manifested? What's manifest? No! Just even say, "Can't
have vested." Come on, you can't just like fuck up the illiteration like that. She's just like, "Buy design on purpose, and I do so every day, and I want it to look good and feel good." And I absolutely have flaws. I don't have secrets. You know, one of my flaws is I married a guy who can't pay for shit. That's what I do it all myself. I bought two little last week. I bought the tuna in the house. I don't talk about anything. And she says, "Yeah, I mean, I told people about the
science death. My first night of meeting, though. And like the women have taken time to get to know me,
see me as authentic, but the ones who have not taken the time are the ones making conclusions about in their own career." It's such an interesting parallel with what's going on with this show and the parenthesis for our superior ladies of London because we have sort of two things of like,
You have two cast members on one of these shows talking about like, "Hey, I s...
heavy thing." And so therefore, because I was so vulnerable, you should be giving me more respect.
“You should be like holding space. You should be halting everything. You should be saying, "Oh, my God,”
you know." And you have the other women who are like, "I mean, that's terrible that that happened, but like you're just bringing up now to kind of just like manipulate the conversation, right? And so it's kind of interesting how on two shows are happening at the same time, to different degrees of entertainment." But this one, they're like tip-toeing around how to say it, like, stop bringing up your trauma for fucking social collateral. And on the other one, she's like,
you know, the kid meets just like, "Oh, shut the fuck up! Why are you talking about that?" It's both so good. Yeah. It's like, "I understand, your brother died, but doesn't mean we
gotta be bored at a wine-taste thing." It's not bad enough we got shot in the first place.
You have to ruin my glass of wine, but I'm trying to enjoy a blunt blunt. A blunt blunt. Commander-times, there's a blunt blunt to blunt with this week. A blunt blunt. Okay, so Amanda is, um, she's like, "I need to ask a clarifying question." I can't. I need to ask a clarifying question. Like, she's getting free. Oh, she's getting free question, somewhat cross-examination in a courtroom.
When we were on the bridge, buzz, you know, you saw the mask. Did you say, "That's Amanda?" It was like, "Hmm, I don't think I said that." And we see the thing, like, who's gonna be Pinocchio, Amanda? And that's my point. Who's gonna be Pinocchio as a little different than, like,
“who wears a mask, who is masked? So, that's why I think that she's confused.”
So, uh, then, uh, Kyle's like, "Well, I mean, uh, this is what you said." This is what you said, and both of us, uh, "Why would you need to remind her of what she said?" Let her say it if she remembers. I want to hear it from her, Kyle. Like,
is this a conversation with me? It's never me and Amanda. She has, um, but, like, it's because
Natalie said something to you, though. And Amanda's like, "Yeah, the truth is I think you know you said it." Girl, what? Where did she think you were, Laya? That's what she's saying. Or, if you'd like to hear her tell me that she's calling you, I mean, yeah. But, no, you'll see me smell. So, buzz is like, I know, and she's trying to tell me what I know, and if you have a direct question, let me know. Amanda goes, "But did you look at a mask and say
that's like Amanda?" Why would I say that? Because because you think I'm fake? Okay, do you think I'm fake? She's like, "I think you, that you are not being clear about your life?" Because it looks and feels good. I can't have that. I'm not allowed to have a life that looks and feels good. It's not pure, and we've all seen it. You're preventing, you're presenting your life like a steppard wife or something, and it's not. My life is beautiful. I worked in
created that way. It's great. But there are words in it, and all I'm saying is we should hear, we should hear all your words. She's like, "But one of my mom's been forthcoming about." Well, you present things as perfect and they're probably not. It feels to me that whenever there's a situation, it's like, "Who are Amanda? You're kind of like Kiely's hairline. I see through it." From what am I poor, Amanda? Right now, in this very moment, notice, I was, it's like, "See,
I was speaking right now, you're doing it right now." Right now, you're asking me why I said this thing, and that makes me appear as an aggressor to you. Well, I think you're being maybe a bit hypersunciety for Munda, and if I've come to you, and I, and acoustic you, what I do see from you is, you show up is very suky. You know, three, why are you vacuuming right now? I'm not a man of God. So, Kiely!
It's like, it's so suky. You make faces like this. This is what you look like, Amanda. That is like, "Buh, that's true, that's true." So, let me just ask you a thing, because it's both said her thing. I wish both was a little more honest with her in this, because I don't really see, I don't think both is presenting a great case here, especially since she's known all the time. I wish, instead of her saying, like,
you're not, you don't seem honest about your life or you seem like a victim or something like that, tell them why you don't like her. You know it. I wish you would just say, "Yes, I made a joke on the bridge," because she said, "Who's Pinocchio?" and I said, "You." Because I feel like you're inauthentic. You come in here, you act like you're authentic, but all you do is gobbledy-yook like millennial like pops-likeology TikTok speak. You don't say anything
real. You use tragedy for social capital and as arguments against people, which is totally tacky, and I think your business is a fucking rip off. I think it's crazy that you're saying you're charging, like, tens of thousands of dollars when you say you came from a cult and it looks like
“you're running a cult. That's what I think. I think you're inauthentic loser.”
Yeah, I agree. It's like about this, like, "Oh, you're not showing us your real life
Words and all.
she's not sure. I mean, she sort of actually did share a major work that happened in her life,
you know, a tragic one. And so, like, I don't think that's the issue. It's 100% what you said. 100% I don't have the exact same reaction, which is like, "Don't say like, "Oh, she's not
“showing her life." Because the truth is none of you guys actually really want that. Like, I can't tell any”
single person in this group that's like, "Oh, my God, I can't wait to find out more about Amanda's life." I think they're using that as a way, so they have some sort of like moral high ground of why they're they're filling. They use that to explain why they're annoyed, but they're annoyed because they pick up on Amanda, what we pick up on is that she's fake, she's a grifter, and she's just annoying. And she, like, like, you can't really even have a conversation with her without her
self-promoting, or, like, suddenly, like acting, like a victim in the most annoying way,
but they don't want to be the ones who accuse her of that because they thought so harsh. So instead, they're going to, they're going to drape this other lofty thing on top of it, which is like, "We are annoyed with you, not because of your personality. We're annoyed because you're not sharing with us." And they're putting it back on her that way. It's like, "No, you're doing it because she's just annoying and just own up to it and live in it."
Yeah, when they're not like, it's like, "You're using all this victim language constantly." Like, we're having this discussion now, and the way you're saying it is, "I'm feeling same." Like, "I'm emotionally regulated, but I'm feeling like it."
It's hard to have a conversation with somebody who is like a therapy chat GPT, but, you know?
So I wish they would say that. I think to read kind of gets it the best oddly enough, because she says, "You can be flawed in perfect. You can have a past, but just be like, just be yourself." In other words, it's not being this, you know, bullshit made up persona. Yep, so, um, it's then Jennifer's like, "I feel like you may have wasted a lot of time today being hurt over something that possibly didn't even happen." And because like, um,
but she was clear about what she heard on the bridge, and Natalie even agreed that, "Yes,
“that's what Bose said as a joke." And Natalie said, "Well, I said Bose said Amanda's name."”
And she was like, "Yeah, but then like, what was the joke part of you were referring to just like, "Amandas, that was the joke." She was like, "Well, obviously, you know." So, no, I'm asking. And so, and so, and so on, like, Amanda knows, is he said it y'all, and that was like, um, um, that, like, a, now this is the back pedal in a way that it, it, it, it, will make sense to me." Yes, she won't say it either. She just wants to stay out of it. So, Amanda's like, "Manily, you're standing right there too, and you agreed that's what Bose said."
And she was, "Don't pin this on me." I mean, I took it as a joke, and you should have, too. And because like, but you're not saying what you said earlier, she was, but I didn't say she'd be, you confirmed it before. Now you're telling a different story, which is true. I don't know what Natalie's doing. I mean, Natalie should have just said they asked me if I heard you joking about Amanda on the bridge. And I said, "Yes, but it was just a joke." Like, I don't know why Natalie is being a weirdo, too, now.
They're all, I honestly don't hear that in this episode. Like, I can't even follow any, I can't even follow why any of them are acting like this. So, I also don't... I don't totally see exactly how Natalie changed her story either. I just wasn't sure what was happening. And I feel like Natalie was, I feel like Natalie was cut off
“garden and really knows happening in suddenly cars. Like, you know, coming at her and she's like, "Huh?”
What?" And she's like, "What is this? Now you're scared of both, so you're not going to admit to what you confirmed earlier?" And not this like, "I'm not playing this game of tag with you. I've watched this for weeks now." And she's like, "You said something different earlier. You realize we all see this, right?" And she's like, "My God, you just cannot help it." She's like, "You're lying!" Now you're like, "What? Huh? I'm sexy. I'm just waiting for a way to talk about the fact
that I got a happy ending once. Come on." Or, you know, what doesn't lie? The camera! She does her, like, cross that headbubble thing. And, uh, so Dury just gets up and leaves. And, like, honestly, it seems like Koyle has lost all the ability to be adjunctive. She's beautifully protecting Mundo, but the hoops that Minda will eventually fall in line and be a sous-jac. And then Minda can say to me, "All the things that I'll really
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that I lied. Well, you did, even though I wasn't there. I mean, I was there, but I wasn't. But I was,
“and I was like, I didn't lie. She said, "Yeah, you did." So I was like, "Oh, Natalie,”
you can't be a lie." And I don't like that. Just please stop. So I'm like, but they all say that. It's not just Natalie, so Rachel's not really was a child. And so she should have just said, "I did say I hear it." And I also said it was a joke. But instead, she's like, "Ah, I know I didn't know." Although she didn't have a line in there where she said, "I said it was a joke." But she wants to say, "I'm saying," but she wants to say what it was that she heard that was a joke.
Because it's going to contradict both and she likes both. And Kyle's been an asshole. And she even says, "I've seen you doing this for weeks." Or Kyle will start to fight. She gets everybody fighting. And then she brings a fight forward. And then she's directing everything and directing them what to say. So I did like that Natalie pointed this out. When she was like, "I'm not playing your game of tag. I've seen you do this for weeks."
But at the same time, you are it. And so you've got to just say, "This is what I heard." And I said, "It was joke." Like, what? It's so Beverly Hills to just be like, "Let's not ever say what we really said and just keep going around in circles." Preferably, it's a Rachel's like, Kyle looks like she's going to explode. She's like then, and the Hampton's without a spedora. Because like, well, it's frustrating because like,
Natalie is like, "I just bet you and you just fucking lied." And it's like, "We're to me." So that is like, "How am I lying?" And Amanda's like, "Because now you're saying all that happened was that my name was said." But in the street, you said it was about the mask. I'm sorry. Like they are like, if Natalie's story changed, whatever, I just feel like this is so it's so stupid. This might have happened if Amanda had the balls to just turn around and ask
both what she said right then and there. But instead, she's had to make it this whole production.
“And no one else wants to play with it. And I like that everyone else is like, "You know what?”
Even if we know we're wrong, we're not going to give you this because Kyle and Natalie are Kyle and Amanda, you both suck. So have fun floundering." So they're just all watching them. And you see Kyle physically getting like, "Oh, sorry. Oh my God." She's getting so upset. And everyone else is just staying calm and looking at them. Like, they're fucking crazy. Yeah, and Bose is like, "Look, if you have something to say, just go to the person and say it."
And Amanda's like, "Oh, I remember Bose saying that I can't control how other people behave in a friendship." And she's telling me right now how to act. I don't see him learn matured in this Bose. I'm like, "I think I get the logic of what you're saying." But I think what the sentiment is is that you can't control how if people are offended or not offended. Like, you can't control people's emotional reactions. She's not saying like, "You can't control if someone decides to go and
gossip to other people first before they come and confront you." She's saying, "If you want, I like
“succeed in your interactions." Just come to me first. She's not trying to control you. She's giving”
you a strategy for how to grow and to be... Yeah, Amanda. She talks like her bots online talk. You know, there's been a lot of Reddit speculation on whether she's hiring bots to go fight for her online because they're from these accounts that seem like they're bots. They're botting paid for bots because they were answering things like, "Okay, we're hiring people to social media people to go on and basically give their opinions or whatever for pay." And these people are
responding, "Okay, I want in." And then suddenly they're showing up and they're fighting for Amanda and all of the arguments are the same. And they started posting all these threads that are like, "Well, both has a workshop where she, the first thing she says, "This is how to do something." Then the second thing she says, "This is how to do this in business." And the third one is how to do this in business. But the fourth one is, "Well, this workshop will teach you how to take all the
lessons from the first three workshops and manifest them into your life." So she's using the word manifest, isn't she a hypocrite because of how she's treating Amanda? It's like, "No, because she's using manifest in a way that's like, I've taught you things." Now I'm going to tell you how to
bring these things, you know, how to make these work in your real life. But they're always missing
the point. And they're like, "But wait, isn't both doing the same thing that Amanda is doing?" And it's just, "I'm only pointing that out because it's been happening all week where there's like these attack-book-bos-posts that are clearly by-bots because everybody's like, "Oh, shut up bot." You know, like everybody knows at this point. But it's funny because the same language and the same tone they're using is exactly Amanda right now. Like, "But wait, both told me this
thing, and now she's doing it too. Aren't you more mature than this, both?" Like girl, we can see you. You're not even a good, you talk like a robot and you're not even a good online bot. Yes, seriously. So Kathy has decided that this is, this is boring now. I mean, it was boring all the time to be honest. And she just is like, "Let me give some, let me just say something generic,
That will just end this.
place." Am I right? Like, that has nothing to do with anything. But now they're just sitting there quietly and Amanda's just like, "You didn't hear pizza." Jennifer's like, "Thank you, Billy, that Kathy." So Kathy's like, "Where did she go? Where did she go?" She's mad at someone,
“but look at, look after it. Did she fall on the pool? Is she doing opera in the theater?”
Oh my God, be careful, everyone. Who else was she? I don't know what she's doing, I just know the world is waiting for that bitch. And Amanda's like, "So, it bothers you that she comes late and leaves early?" Yes, it does bother me. We all stop agreeing, that's stop lying, just stop lying. So guys, guys, I checked the Hamptons. I called every single store in the Hamptons, Dread isn't there, but guess what? She's in a room. That's yeah. So she's being a drama queen and
cows like, "Oh God, you know, if both were honest, she'd say that that's rude, but I mean, it's giving Irish goodbye, but we're in Italy." So both was like, "Well, a lot's been said tonight, a lot to reflect on. I think it's time to wrap up and go to sleep." So Jennifer goes to the chapel and she's like, "Be a little bit, please help us that fighting child." Jump, jump, jump. The read is now sitting with racial and bows and reads like, "Gee, I felt like I was in the twilight zone,
whatever coil was doing, that like she was trying to defend something that didn't need defending." And bows like, "Well, I think that Amanda is very cunning. I could see it when she was deflecting. She has to make herself a victim in every situation, so she then doesn't have to take account of ability." So in the other room, Amanda's like, "Kyle, thank you for making points and I can make." I'm just like, really sorry that you experienced that today. It was definitely not
on fleek. Amanda's not clear on us about her life, yeah, like who's behind the fucking curtain. That's you, like them. No, that's my outfit, not just my outfit. I mean, like figuratively. Well, she's something a mindset that she wants to impart and recruit others into,
“and look, this is going to be a very controversial thing to say. Are you ready?”
She's built a coat, there, I said it. [GIGGLES] She walked away from one and she built another. I can't. Done, I can't.
No, finally, someone has said it.
And now we've said it. And now we've said it. Well, what will happen? What will happen now that Amanda's been accused of being a cultured leader? A set of, well, we'll find out. And at the meantime, thank you all for being here and joining us for this.
Somehow, we wound up talking a lot more about this episode than there was actually content in it, which is crazy. But that's just what we do at Crapins. The big exciting episode will do in 30 minutes in a boring as episode. We do two episodes worth. So, thanks for being here and we will catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crapins. Bye, everyone. Good boy.
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