#3230 Crappy Hour 3/2/26: Lizzie Bassett From What Went Wrong

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Well, hello and welcome to Crafty Hour.

I'm Ronnie, and that's been over there. Hi, Ben. Hello. Hi, how's it going? So good.

It's a great day. It's my day March 2nd. Back to talk, Brotherhood lines.

“And we-- I was going to say we have a great surprise,”

but it's not much of a surprise because I forgot to take her off the screen. It's our gorgeous and talented guest, Lizzy Bassett, from the What Went Wrong Podcast. Hi, Lizzy.

Hello, hello. Hello, thanks for having me. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you.

It's hell, everyone where they can find your podcast. And what they should be doing to listen to it. Oh, you can find it anywhere that you can find podcasts. It's called What Went Wrong. And every episode covers a different movie,

what goes wrong behind the scenes on the movie, how did it happen, how did it get made. We just taped an episode today on American History X. That was very depressing, but most of them were very fun and funny.

And yeah, our whole premise is that it's nearly impossible to make any movie, let alone a good one. So we just talk about how they get made. Yeah, right, on me.

“Before we get into Brava's stuff, I want to ask you”

whether in height. Yes, right now. I feel like-- why am I embarrassed to say this? Yes, I liked it. OK, good.

You should be embarrassed. Never be embarrassed. I liked it. Think what you liked. Did you guys see it?

I haven't gotten my friends. My friends, I didn't say he loved it. I would like to know, will you ever do an episode based on one of the following movies? Big business, soap dish, red rock west, last deduction,

or ruthless people, because I will go on any of those episodes. And talk about them. Good to know, I'll look into all of them

and see which one has this amazing back story.

There's a problem none of them went wrong. So how dare you then? That went wrong with those, those are all classics. I could definitely be heard. Yes, look into it.

Look into it, please, report back, as soon as possible. Yeah, for coloring. Oh, sorry. Oh, no, no, go ahead. I was just going to say for anyone wondering why it's

February 2nd today. It's not. I'm just an idiot and this incorrectly, the second time in a row. OK, so what we're going to say tell me about weathering heights?

“I was just going to say, I think you guys should watch it”

because it's like-- it's definitely weathering heights for us, Bravo fans. It's not-- it's not really an adaptation of the book. It's kind of-- it's-- it's weathering heights for romance, novel enthusiasts.

And you know, I've read the book and it's totally different. And I watched the movie. And I was fine with it. And Jacob already is so tall, so tall. Oh, so tall.

Yes, so tall. I didn't really realize who was that tall. But everybody's like, oh my god, that guy's just tall is Jacob awarding. We sell this giant at a party this weekend.

And everyone was saying, oh my god, he's just tall. It's Jacob awarding. Nice huge. He shows up as like fuck boy. He's cliff with the little gold tooth in the airing.

I was like, fine, sure. Yeah, whatever.

Well, I've never read the book.

I have no idea what weathering heights is all about. I just know-- You still won't after you see this version. It's about a cat falling in love with a girl who's really mean to him, right?

Kind of. I know it's like a weird Gothic ghost story that maybe kind of involved some incess. But they leave all that out. They get that out of there for the movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just so in right now. Hello, white lotus, vander-promptu. It was re-boost. Yeah, horn head.

OK, I'm into it. Listen, I'm more of an Eastern from Jane Eyre kind of guy. I don't know about this weathering heights. Wait, sorry. Also, just to briefly go back to porn hub, Ben, you--

when you were talking about the recent Southern charm episode, and you mentioned the stuck porn, I was dying because that-- I worked in a writer's room many years ago, and there was a guy in that room who actually thought this was the funniest thing ever.

And he would show it not the kind that has any actual active sex. But it's literally-- there's a whole corner of YouTube. That's just women dressed in a nurse's outfit, being like, I'm going to be late for my job, and they walk out onto the sidewalk.

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And they're just stepping up and down

in the gummy bears going, and stuck. [LAUGHTER]

“So a message just and said, I think you guys heard it wrong.”

You were saying, stock porn, like-- No, no, no. The mill, stock porn. I was like, I'm pretty sure they said stock random buildings of New York City, people fucky.

It's not like flying over here. Show us those people in a meeting. Yes, stock porn. They're stuck in that meeting. Yeah, the stuck in a dryer thing.

So I was like, how does that? I don't know. I've only seen the gummy bear version on the sidewalk. That's pretty good. Yeah, stuck porn.

I could do stuck porn if it was like, stuck on a math problem. Oh, I just can't figure out how much I go for a tip. What should I do?

It's almost starts smacking me in the face

at their wiener or something. I could do that. Yeah. I mean, I could do it if it's just walking into a sticky puddle and you're like, fully closed.

I mean, that's literally all this was. It's like, I'm like trying to put my jeans and they just get stuck, and I'm like, great. I can't get all my jeans. Someone just comes like, peas on me or something.

OK, well, all sorts of fabulous things. Get out of my gutter. I'm speaking to you. I'm speaking of stock porn. Let's talk about some stuck people from Bravo.

Stuck porn, Bravo style. Real housewives of New York, though reboot. They just can't seem to get it right. They are stuck. They have decided to keep trying.

The big rumor from the past couple of, well, it's not a big rumor. We hurt Ben and I hurt it from somebody somewhere. Said that they're trying to decide between real housewives of New York and real housewives

of Miami. What should they keep on the air? They've only got room for wine. I don't know if that's true, Andy went on his radio show and said, you know, we just want them to be good.

And right now there's nine housewives. I think we're willing to play. So gave us no answers as usual. But today we got one. They are at least bringing back real housewives of New York,

the reboot, and they have announced their new cast. Don't turn on. The new cast is, well, I mean, the big takeaway. Really, is that part of the new cast is going to be Carol Radswell as a friend of, and everyone.

“That's what everyone's getting all the headlines.”

That's everyone's buzzing about. Carol Radswell coming back. But she is going to be joined with some new people. We have Haley Glassman, Daisy Toy, or Toya, or Toya, and Erica Hammond.

All right, well, what do we know about these people? What do we know? Who wants to go first? I'll tell you the only thing that caught my eye, which is that I believe it's Haley Glassman.

In every article, I have seen the only way she's qualified is that she dated John Goslin after he got divorced. Oh, wow. Who admits to that? Like, who puts that on their IMDB?

Like, how is that a credit? Yeah, like, yeah. Look, I am totally in support of people sleeping their way to the top. But, like, that's the part of them.

And I'm not even saying that she's even doing that. I'm just saying. Yeah, exactly, at least go to the top. But don't just sleep your way to the basement. I'm not saying she's left her way to the top to whoever she did.

That's such a-- everything in, but everything I said is rooted in so problematically. But I'm just saying, I would rather her people write to the top than just have any sort of Detroit of John Goslin.

I would rather. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm just saying. No, what you said-- what you said makes sense. I mean, just don't sleep with John Goslin and brag about it.

It's just like doing-- it's like, I'm just doing something horribly embarrassing. The rest of us would be so embarrassed. It's like, oh my God, you guys, I was on my way to work. And I had a coffee and I should have peed before I left the house. I peed a little on my paint.

You know, something like that. Who puts that? I'm going to be on real housewives of New York. I peed my pants on the way to work.

Oh, she does say he's my first love.

I'm not some Danny Poirn. Oh, God. Oh, he was a lot older than that at that point. Yeah, it's 2000 or not. No, I feel bad.

Okay. The year was 2009. This could be a great episode from what went wrong. Hilly last minute in John Goslin, what went wrong. What went right, actually?

The year was 2009. It is interesting.

“It looks like they're mixing up the age as a little bit more, which I think is nice.”

Because everybody's been kind of the same. What would the exception of Jenna Lyon? So I know I wasn't coming back. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappings commercial.

Well, I look at this picture on Queens of Bravo, and it's showing the cast. So for those of you watching right now, you can see the cast here. I'm not sure if they're mixing up the ages because everyone, maybe it's because

looks the same to me. I mean, I can't tell. Yeah. Who's who?

“I've already started to do my deep dive into Glassman, because there was a link to, I guess,”

an article in 2009 of when she and Goslin got together, and this is people magazine. And here's some quotes.

She admits she's having a great time with her new bow, and quote, "We're always laughing

in joking. Gush is Glassman, 22. We watch movies, play pool, and ping pong. We laugh a lot because I beat him at everything. He's a great cook.

He cooks roasted veggies with special seasoning and sauces, and he grills pineapple with a butter concoction." "Oh God, your standards are so low at 22. Now I just feel bad for her. That's terrible.

He grills stuff. He grills pineapple. He grills vegetables. I can't remember if he's a nice piece of news. He puts a lot of pineapple.

Oh, is it pineapple? Oh, God. Is it pineapple? Can I have your 20th baby? No.

Oh, over either playing ping pong or roasting veggies, I mean, really, it's pretty tort over here.

"Hey, what do you want to do tonight?

How do you ping pong or pineapple with butter on it?" "Why not both?" "How about not just butter, but a butter concoction?" "Well, let's do it." "Wait.

I love that she's also like it's great because he's terrible at all these things and I beat him at all the sports." "Like, well, it is John Goslin, I mean."

“"Well, the only thing I can't beat him at is buttering pineapple.”

He's got that one down." "Just those had to roast veggies and special seasoning so well." All right, so Hayley Glassman is good casting. I guess that. I guess we're saying that she's good casting.

She was the one when I saw this earlier, I said, "Looks like Lisa Hawke's team." "Yes. Big time. I thought the same thing." "Well, I actually thought two of them did.

I thought she did and Daisy Toy did as well." "Yeah." One pointed out in those comments that Daisy Toy looks more like real housewives of New Jersey, Dina, but I can kind of see from far away. "I can see that."

"Yeah." "I'm an aerosol." "Yeah." She's married to the CEO of Built, I think, so she's probably very... "Yeah."

"And 34 of former WWE Diva, who co-graded Rumble Boxing, as well as several fitness programs to Equinox in 2024, she married billionaire and core Jane, the founder and CEO of Built a lavish ceremony in a savage. That's like lavish and savage. It was a lavish ceremony in Egypt.

"There's a quick link. They actually got married in front of the Sphinx and various permits. That's wealth. I feel like you just can't. I don't think that's a cheap wedding venue.

The Sphinx." "The Sphinx." "Oh, my God, it really is." "What did you think?" "They did."

"Sorry, we're both for a couple of years out, right." "I've got a question for the Sphinx. What table am I?" "Washington, I have to make reservations at the Sphinx isn't this like taxpayer-funded. This is like a public park.

I should just be able to get married here when I want to." "Okay. I'm looking at these pictures of this wedding. Do you guys see the pictures of the wedding? They're in the next, that's linked to from this article."

"From the past." "Yeah, I'm looking at 'em." "Oh, Lance Bass was there, guys. It goes famous faces.

Does lavish ass wedding the first one?

They're like Lance Bass." "Where isn't he?" " Lance Bass." "It's like you know you're going to be a housewife when Lance Bass shows up at your wedding."

"That's true." "Yeah." "That's true." "The only famous face were able to pull up was Lance Bass, but that's okay." "But she is extraordinarily wealthy."

"Yeah." And the original performance by Robin thick, okay? So the star wattage is questionable. That's a question. "Oh, I'm okay."

"I'm going to put this off of your thick." "What year was this? Was this like blurred lines here or was this like now?" "This was two years ago." "No, that's not good."

"But you know what? Like, maybe she loves the mass singer." "Maybe." "Yeah, maybe." "Oh, she's very pretty.

Her weight of dress is pants. Is it pants? Is it?" "No, it's not pants." "Is it pants?"

"That's what does that."

“"This is like a reception look, I think."”

"She--her actual wedding dress dress looks like--" "Oh, I can't tell." "Well, she's like this. Come on a plane." "Mm."

"Is there a dress version of a scorts?" "I think so." "I think there is." "She looks like Paige's a Sorbo here." "I'm retch.

I'm getting my makeup done on a plan." "This is a chance that she could be a total asshole in which case I'm in support of her. Because I think the cast needs like a--and our--and this cast needs campiness and we--we don't have really any campiness outside of Jessel.

And so maybe she--she doesn't-- "She doesn't like campiness." "No one who gets married in front of the spaint--the sphinx isn't a masshole."

She's very, very rich, though, and she's created her own enterprise.

It sounds like a boxing. So she's probably not going to take any shit from anybody, which that could be good as well." "I'll--I'll be--wF." "I mean, come on."

"Yeah." "Right." "And I also like that the sphinx--the sphinx is really the original nose job." "Right." So she's like, "I will go to the home of plastic surgery."

"The sphinx." "Yeah."

“"She's got kind of a muppet smile, which I think is very--very open, like--to the smile, which--I think--"”

"I think--" "Like a Jesse Solomon kind of--" "Oh, yeah." "I think it can be good for bravo." "Yeah."

"It looks like her bracelet--kind of look like it was one of those things you put on a door knobs that way toddlers don't turn the door." "Like her bracelet, right?" "Oh, yes, it looks exactly like that." "She's very good."

"Well, when people say it's with my arm, they can't."

"I was so funny." "And she probably makes her shoulders--like, there wasn't usually a whole right here between her shoulder and her neck until she wore this necklace." "I had this earring too much." "You've got it."

"You've got it." "You feel like he didn't want to take this photo." "And she just jumped on his back." "It's like smile." "He's like, "Oh, okay."

"This man doesn't want to take any of these. I don't know. Do men want to take these pictures? No." "I don't know.

I don't think he wanted to get married in front of the sphinx. See, there he's like, "What did I get myself into?" "Jesus."

“"I think he's a kind of guy who walks around going."”

"Hey, get off my back, am I right?" "I hope." "I don't like he and Pa the old Bond over." "I'm like chicken sandwiches in New York." "I love Pa.

I'm very excited that they're coming back." "Yeah, okay. So who else do we have here? We've got Haley Glassman, Erica Ham. Okay.

So we talked about Erica, Erica. She has my Sarah. I'm not making fun of her. Erica. Haley, that's the John Goslin one.

Daisy Toy. Do we know anything about her? "Not a ton." She looked like she had the least information about her. "What is she saying?"

"Probably everything." "Make up artists." "Oh, she's a mate." "So is she Martha Stewart's..." "Make up her?"

"Yes." "Oh." "She's a prominent makeup artist with a celebrity clientele that includes none other than Martha Stewart who shares many snaps of her work on Instagram." "Oh my God."

"Did you guys watch that Martha Stewart documentary?" "No." "I actually did not see it." "It was amazing." "It was great."

"If Martha is what they need." " Martha would shut the house down." "She is incredible." "I think the makeup artist is good."

“"And I think she's created a bunch of businesses and stuff too."”

"But yeah, they should have Martha." "Not the makeup." " Martha is makeup person." "I want Martha." "The Martha was crazy."

"I remember seeing a TV movie about her." "And civil shepherd of all people played her." "Oh, she looks like her." "And it was really good." "Oh."

"That was classic." "I tried to run down her husband's new wife for something." "I think it was going to run her over." "It was so good." "Did she deserve it?"

"Yeah." " Martha." "She's like, you should watch it." "You would like that documentary a lot." "It was great."

"She's very casual about her very strange relationship with her husband." "I think I have this right." "But there's a whole sequence where she's like, "You know, yes, I was deaf." "I had extramarital affairs." "And blah blah blah."

"And you're just like, you can't just glaze past that month." "You can roll it back." "Yeah." "That's why I love that." "Hello."

"I personally think that Roni should not have any cast members younger than 60 at this point." "I think we need to have like three people who are like 62, 63, 67, a Martha Stewart." "And then someone somewhere in the middle." "Because I think the youngins and the New York City youngins are just like not as interesting." "Someone, uh, it was just here.

There was a comment in here that said, "I still think Roni, the Roni reboot is still going to be dead boring." "I'm not sure if it will be or not. I think these seem like interesting changes. And I'm actually very open to it." "I kind of think that Erin Lee G. is a bit of a drip."

"And I think she kind of sets that tone for the show." "What about, how did you like it, Lizzie?" "Because you told us something extraordinary beforehand,"

"which is that you've actually never seen old school Roni, you've only seen the reboot."

"How did you like it as someone who comes in with the no context of the older, uh, what came before hand?" "You're really outing me, Ben." "Well, it's fascinating." "I think it's secret." "That scene looks like she's in a confession booth right now, where it totally looks outing her."

"I think a fan here did this darkest secrets and then he outed you the second you get." "Yeah, I never watched the original Roni. And I know I need to, um, I just have so much other stuff I have to watch because my own stupid podcast that makes me watch, you know, four hour long movies. Um, but yeah, I don't know why I liked it, but I did because I agree with you.

This last season was so frustrating, um, with Bryn.

I am very glad she's not back. That, that whole thing was just like a mess and not fun to watch by the end of it at all. "Yeah." "But..." "Crazy."

"That was so weird." "That was so weird." "It was super weird." "It was super, um, carmic because the other one got canceled for being so problematic. And then this one, she got canceled."

You know, it's like, okay, and it was a different slightly slightly different problematic, but it was still like, "Ooh, yikes." "It just was sad." It was really sad. And, um, yeah, I don't know.

“I think what drew me to it originally, honestly, was general ions because I grew up in the time”

of the Genolions J. Crew. And, like, I thought that was the coolest way to dress. And that's, everything that I wanted was Genolions J. Crew. So that, like, actually meant a lot to me to see her. And I actually really enjoyed watching her.

Even if she didn't, like, bring a ton of drama. I liked her as a person. And enjoyed watching her. And I very much enjoyed Jessel. I think Jessel is fun, can't be the right energy.

She's gorgeous. I am very into her. Overall, though, like, I'm with you guys. Make it more gray gardens. Like, get these young ladies out of here.

I want the cookie ones that have been stuck in New York for 65 years. You know? But how does it fare? If you know, they love it. It's just two different shows.

And, you know, I'm hoping someday you will get around the old old school running, which I think you're going to really enjoy. It was a pretty special run, I think, as a reality show. It's just, it's absolutely wild. And it's just, it's, it's women who are very, very frank with each other.

“And I think that's why we were drawn to it.”

And so a lot of people say, "Oh, Miami and Salt Lake City, like, have this beautiful, drony." And so that's why I think a lot of us have, like, struggled with the reboot. And general lines, though, like, that was, I mean, it's really interesting to hear that. You were brought in by general lines.

Because that was one of the reasons why she was cast. She was a whole new group of people, which was awesome. Did you ever watch "Genolions Show" on HBO Max? That was called "Stylish" or whatever. It's like, "Genolions," you'll love that show.

Because that one really showcased "Genolions" in the best way. It was all "Genolions." And it was all her quirks and strangeness. And she's so ridiculous. She's like, "Well, today I decided I want to just renovate my townhouse.

So I'm going to do it, but I'm like, really nervous about it. But I'm just going to do it. I just wanted to, I want, I want the, I want the wall to be green. And then the next day she's like, "I've decided the wall should be black." And like, that's all it is for changing her mind and doing things.

And, but then she gives like little tips on how she curates the objects in her home. Or how she puts together an outfit.

And it's like, it's amazing.

It's so good. And it was like, sort of sad that they weren't able to truly tap into that with the reboot for her. I, I definitely will watch that. Yeah, she felt very reserved. And I think understandably so. And I just saw somebody in the comments, I'm not sure who it was.

But they said, you know, I hope this season that people really stop trying to produce themselves. And I think that's such a good point.

“And honestly, that's like, maybe my biggest complaint about more of the new cast members coming onto these shows is they're trying to produce themselves.”

It's people that have grown up with Bravo and reality TV. And they like understand how it's supposed to work and they're trying to manufacture it. And I don't want to watch that. And I'm not sure how we get away from it because we've now, you know, like the snake is sort of eating itself at this point. But I hope they figure it out.

Well, I think a lot of it is that first of all, it's going to be really hard to do a reality show in 2026 where people have not seen one. And then they don't know what's going on. I mean, it's just what the time we're living in everybody's savvy to it. But one of the things about these shows that is so good as the age is that they can't control anything. Like you come in thinking you can control it.

And then you slowly start to spin out of control and lose your mind. And then you slowly go crazy or quickly go crazy. And that's when it gets fun. But New York really hasn't found a cast that they can keep yet. And so they're not really going crazy.

And so it's the third year of like, oh god.

And you know, they kind of got rid of all the diversity on this cast. Well, not all the vessels still there. But you got rid of a lot of diversity to bring in some white blonde ladies. And it's like, what kind of message is that? You know, it's almost like, OK, well, we tried diversity.

And so now we're just going back to blonde white ladies because that didn't work. It's like it's not that diversity that didn't work. It's Aaron. It's Aaron. Yeah.

I'm the way I said there's Jessel. I mean, obviously there's size. Well, sorry. Yeah. I mean to do have sci-e ratio there.

But you know what I mean, right? That's like cast. And then recast everybody is white blonde ladies. It's a little bit. I was surprised that Uber wasn't because I actually really liked Uber.

I know she, you know, she was like, I know she was good. We heard that she was just over it.

I like she was over it. She also meant this guy went up to Connecticut. I think that I think if they can center it on Jessel instead of Aaron. I think we could be in a good shape because I think Jessel is funny. And she's just like we're fascinated by Jessel.

I have to say, size most improved her first season,

which was like literally the worst and we all hated her.

“And then second season I thought, I think that's why sort of got the memo”

was like, you know what, let me just be a little bit more myself. And she was way more entertaining. I think it's just Aaron is very, she does self-produce. And I just, I don't know, like Aaron will stir up a stupid argument because she's thinking it's like what we want to see.

And I just, I think that if Aaron could somehow be like more interesting. And I don't know what that would take. There's a note. Hey, be more interesting. I don't know what else to say.

I don't know what else to say. I mean, I think you're surprised. We don't have to be very nice. You know, sometimes you don't, do you just don't have to be nice. We're just watching a TV show.

Yeah. Yeah. Boring and she said she stirs the pot. And she was, she was at fault for that whole practical joke thing last year that got out of here.

Yeah. She was annoying.

“You know, and sigh, I think the second season she was more palatable as a human being.”

But I think she was less entertaining.

I mean, the first season was sigh getting, you know, upset with things.

And that was more entertaining than whatever the second season was. But, you know what? As usual, we'll erase the DVRs on our brain. Yep. Well, your start fresh.

Give it enough. I'm ready. Yeah. I think what's the housewives are like sports. And you have some years where like, hey, the, you know,

the patriots are killing it. They're doing great. Some years worse, the 49ers. And some years, it's the bears or whatever. And like, we, you know, are sometimes our teams have, we have rebuilding ears.

And we have our dynasties. And then we have, you know, championship teams that come out of nowhere. But like, I, I, I, I enjoy the Epson flows. And I think New York is just in its rebuilding, you know, it's, it's got a track record of, you know, five and seven.

And maybe this season, we can get it to a solid, you know, eight, eight and six. I'm ready. I'm ready. Find out.

Oh, yeah. You just said sports. And I was like, Dude, dude, dude, dude, I'm ready. I don't know what five and seven eight and six means. I'll be honest. Yeah. I can eight and six.

And I was like, that's the age we need for a slice of meat. Okay. So next up, we've got, with me, Rose. So with me, Rose made a splash. The past couple of weeks at her drag branch.

“She does these drag brunch now. Do you drag brunch is now?”

Which I find annoying in itself that she and Ashley are like regular drag brunch hostesses. I like that. It means the drag queens to the drag queens. Okay. And if you're going to have a drag queen hosting,

sorry, you're going to have a real housewife hosting a drag queen brunch. It needs to be like a real drag queenie, you know, like Louanne. Yeah. Or someone like over the top, not Whitney. Yeah, Whitney is definitely the definition of girl.

That's like gay, literally. Yeah. Yeah. She's like goes to the abbey, you know? Yeah, because gay is do not love Whitney. I mean, we, you know, when he's funny and stuff, I don't hate Whitney or anything.

But, you know, she's not like a gay icon. She's just, I don't know. She's like a gay best friend, maybe. And some, I don't know. I'm talking myself into a corner.

I don't need to. Whitney, Whitney's not a gay. So Whitney is the, the big takeaway for beef. From this and many other videos. Wasty, tasty and after spending a whole season. You're in alcohol, alcoholic, pill, popper.

So these clips came out in the past couple of weeks of Whitney. One of these drag branches doing a Q&A sitting here. I'll just, I mean, I'm not going to play the video, but I'll at least put it on screen. So people can have a visual of what we're talking about.

And basically going off, you know,

and being shady about the cast, which I guess is what you're supposed to do at that kind of thing. But she just went a little far. And someone was asking what happened on the plane. And she's like, oh, yeah. I can't talk about it because of legal stuff.

But I hate narrative. And she's a C-word. You know, it's generally going off in nasty. She did think it was interesting though because she like really goes hard on, you know, she's doubling down on the story here.

And then when the host asks her, like, do you have the recording? She has a very, like, almost startled and confused answer. And I do think that's the big question that everybody keeps asking, right? It's like, how, how did no one record this? If it really was the way that they say it is.

I don't what do you, what do you guys think? Like, what the hell is going on here? Yeah, it's shocking that there's no recording.

But like, it's hard because Meredith's the way she acted on the boats.

And the way we've seen her flip out before in previous situations, it's not like a crazy thing to imagine that she was also losing her mind on a plane. Because she's messed up before. But I do think when Meredith really loses her mind, it's loud, and someone would have recorded it. Even someone in, like, a, like, economy probably would have set that camera up,

looking to the mesh blinds. Like, it's, like, that's Meredith Marks. If you're having it, like, it's just, it's something that's not at up here. And I'm wondering, like, are they, did it feel really big to the women?

“Like, I feel like the truth is in there somewhere.”

I also don't know if Meredith would, I think Meredith has, like, actually, like, an awareness of her surroundings that makes me say, I don't think Meredith would actually have a meltdown on an airplane like that. She would maybe on on camera on set, but like, I think she has on awareness. Like, she, and so, like, it's just been so hard to, like, reconcile these stories

because I can sort of see everyone's side. And I just have to imagine, must have felt much bigger to the women, maybe because they're on an airplane. I felt like, oh my god, this is awful. But in reality, it actually was maybe not that bad. I don't probably did it. I think it was just Meredith moment.

And then everyone tried to make it a big deal when Meredith does it five times in episode. But, um, so one of the things she said, they said, what do you think about Meredith and the plane? And she said, well, it's women histories month. And I should support, see words.

And then everybody's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, and then she was like, but how does everybody on the plane have the exact same story? But her, and the problem was you did not all have the exact same story. They were all different. So I mean, you were asleep. Then you were awake. Then it was, you know, ten minutes.

Then it was five hours. Then it was 30 hours. And the plane ride was only two hours. And then, you know, Meredith fire upon Brittany's apartment building. It's like, what is it? You know? I do, I mean, it is interesting what she brought up in that where she said that there is some kind of like legal issue or lawsuit happening in the background.

“And that that's part of why she was, she was insinuating that that's why,”

ooh, like, is there footage? I can't say because of this legal thing. There's not footage, right? Like, I feel like at this point that's been pretty much confirmed. Um, no. If there's footage, they're, they're keeping quiet about it. That's right. Yeah, definitely. I'm, I'm with you guys. I think like somewhere in the middle, I think definitely Meredith was a crazy person on the plane to Brittany.

She's been a crazy person on camera to Brittany. Um, but I don't think it was to the extent that Whitney is claiming. Because I just, I cannot believe that somebody would not have recorded it. It doesn't make sense. Something city really needs to get their camera situation right.

Because this is at least the second time we've had a massive off camera situation between this and the black eye with Heather again.

Yes. It's like, you know, I'd love, I really enjoyed this airplane storyline. I enjoyed that long sit down, lunch they had at vaulters, where they hash out. I thought it was really fun, but it does get exhausting having to, like, come up with all these theories about something that, like, we could have seen if someone had just turned on a camera or like, have a GoPro filming or something like that. It just is so annoying after a while.

Yeah, the black eye was such a, like, I was gross. By the end, it was gross. It was so anti-climactic. I was, I was mad at Heather, like, it was really weird. It was super weird blaming, like, hinting that production could have done it and then have a whole, you know, they had to have a whole investigation into that.

And then the next year when Andy confronted her about it again, she was just like, well, I haven't had mission to make about the black eye. It was Jen Shaw, but I don't remember. So I don't remember what happened. Didn't, how do you know, it's Jen Shaw, come on, man.

Yeah.

“I think that, um, it's, it's always a red flag.”

When storylines on one of these shows start to focus a lot on things that are, like, happen outside the show. It's like, who leaked what to what blogger or who said what. There was a, there was a thing that didn't happen. And I think that, you know, sometimes it can be funny.

It's like there was a dinner and then I was snubbed. It can be funny.

But ultimately it has to happen on camera, which is why I imagine there's,

what's going around is talk that Bravo for the, for the new season of Salt Lake City. Send to added some sort of like mega clause that says everything has to happen on camera. Yeah. There's no manipulation of narratives. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is pretty interesting.

They called it the, um, narrative integrity clause. Basically, the cast are not allowed to create influence or leaked storylines about the show and other cast members off camera. This includes using third parties as a proxy. And any and on camera discussions about unverified activity will be cut from the final edit.

Yeah. Punishable on a scale that includes financial penalties, loss of screen times. Demolition. Demolition. Demotion.

Firing. An inability to read movies from the red box machines in front of seven. Eleven. Can you imagine if you're like this.

“You must do this out via monster trucks Lisa Barlow.”

That would be incredible.

She's talking about leaking to the blogs. All right. Get trucker source ready. It should do that. It's great.

You are a risk of demolition. I think it's actually great because I think it's going to be very hard to enforce. You know, like it's like, oh, you leaked something. They're all going to deny all the time. But what they can enforce is if you're talking about, if you're complaining about something that got leaked,

then we're not going to put this on TV, which is an interesting pullback. Because Bravo for the longest time was not acknowledging, you know, the media. And they had been breaking the fourth wall, which has been really great. But now it's kind of like a way of saying, okay, we're not putting it on the show. So if you want to make it something, we're not putting it on the show.

But then the risk is, I imagine, is that we might get those fights that are like proxy fights for something bigger, where you're like, where are they mad at that? Why are they mad about that towel?

Why do they keep talking about the towel?

And in terms of the towels, like, code for, you know, leaking the blogs? Well, that already kind of happened this year because Meredith and Brittany,

“we're fighting the whole time about that anti-Semitic or anti-Semitic.”

Huntie guy, the hunting nails person, the whole time. And we didn't know what they were fighting about. I still don't know what you're talking about. That's, they, they thought about it in the reunion. It's where Meredith, okay, there was a nail salon guy, nail tech guy in Salt Lake City,

who was making really anti-Semitic comments to one of the customers over text. And this guy published all the texts. And Brittany, then that he called Brittany was like, hey, you know, you're one of my customers. And I need some help here. I'm getting slammed online.

You know, could you give me a review? I'm getting, I'm getting review bombed. So Brittany went on and gave him a glowing review and so did Jared. And then got her nails done for free for watch what happens. And then, um, everybody's riding her.

It was in the news and stuff and Salt Lake, the local news at least.

And they were like, hey, listen, this guy's really anti-Semitic. Why are you giving him these good reviews? He's just like, um, well, I don't know about that. I'll have to look into it. And then just kept him up there.

And so people started liking out that she was doing that. And then they called Jared and Jared, you hear Jared in the background. Like, I'm not taking anything down because of the woke mob and blah, blah, blah. And these people, everyone was too sensitive.

“You need to get over it because he's a big trumpet, you know.”

And so, oh, what a surprise. And that turned into Meredith in the beginning of production, not speaking to Brittany and then they had a big fight. And then Brittany had to apologize to Meredith. And then so Meredith went through it.

Like, no, this lady's anti-Semitic. I don't want to shoot with her. So that was kind of the underlying thing to everything that happened. That season between Meredith and Brittany. So that already happened the whole season.

I don't know that you can have a housewives where everything has to be talked about. That's on camera and not off camera. Because a lot of shit happens off camera. If season, they're fighting about something that happened at some party. We weren't there.

You know, I'm fair enough. I got to look into that more. It's ugly. But, you know, it's a good Reddit. It's a good Reddit hold to fall down.

So I love Reddit. So I love, I love some Reddit hold. That's our new porn. Shredded whole porn. I know.

Shredded. Stuck Reddit. It is stuck. You know it's there. You heard that he's not out.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't go up the separate. I might be a asshole. Oh.

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On Indeed.com/goodhaben. Let's go to the RGB. Okay. Okay. What's next here?

I often something else. Oh, but the rest of that story didn't finish it. Was that the whole cast is supposed to be back. Everybody. Including Meredith, including Lisa, including Heather, who some people out there who were horrible people were rooting for together.

We were rooting for it to get fired. It was me. And Brittany is also back. And they announced that they are bringing in a new woman, but they haven't announced

So I hate when they do that. I don't want to be a preacher. I hate to be a preacher. I hate to be a preacher. Did you imagine?

Did you imagine? I hate to be a preacher. And I'm going to bring it back. I just can't get over that feeling. Go ahead, Ben.

I'm sorry. I was going to say, notably, obviously not really very funny, but Mary Cosby is going to film the season.

“Because I think we all are wondering, is she going to?”

Because, you know, reports, we'd son, you know, passed away. And, you know, is she going to mourn? Is it just sort of, to private whatever, but she is going to film, which will be, you know, that'll be interesting to watch. The interesting to watch her journey.

But I also hope that, like, she's taking care of herself first and, like, like, like, part of me is like, don't film. If you don't, if you need to have some, if you need to have some you time, like, we will all understand. And we will all welcome you back next season.

Like, don't you worry, you know? Yeah, I say, say, take a season off personally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because Salt Lake City really is just the cartoony of show on TV. Mm-hmm. I feel like it's not the place for any kind of serious conversation where you need peer sensitivity for an entire season. It's just not the place.

Like, you can't, you can't expect something like that from this show.

Although they've never shown sensitivity, but this is a big,

this is a big one. That's just terrible that we around them. Well, it's not, I don't think anyone's going to mess with her. But, you know, it's just math. They better not, but that's also why it's bad,

“because you need to be able to mess with everybody on a housewife show.”

Right. Yeah. I also just feel like, you know, when you're on those shows, you basically have all of us here on the internet, commenting on every single thing.

And I just kind of, I'm just, I'm just hoping that this will be, like, Army wants her to go into protective cocoon for a year and then she can go back. But, you know what, it's her choice. And whatever it takes for her, like that,

that'll be what it is, Godspeed. Well, Lizzy, you've either gotten amazing Botox or your screen is frozen. So if your screen is frozen, just refresh your page, and we'll try and let you back in. I hope, I hope it's just refresh, just refresh.

I hope your daughter did not just knock the internet out on accident or something. That's okay. I've had enough of this slander. I hate it. To sisterhood.

Okay. What do you want to talk about next, Ben? You know what we talk about some traders, traders, you know, ended. We had a reunion, you know.

You know, we, we said we're going to cover the reunion. I don't, I feel like there wasn't that much to cover. It was just sort of like, you know, it was like they talked. Right. Did you enjoy that reunion?

Well, what were your thoughts? I'm watching it tonight actually. I didn't know we're going to talk about it here. But I've read, I know I'm sorry. I feel like I'm bringing that on you.

I can ask you about stuff. I read that Candace was, you know, trying to get into it with Rob. And accused him of cheating, which. Yeah. Well, those rumors had been around for the past few weeks.

That Rob had been basically giving Colton information.

And then basically, you know, they were working together in that way. And because Colton had gone up to Candace and said, apparently it's said, I know that Rob's a trader. And we have a bubble of a way to do whatever. And so Candace is the way we can go. Just for anybody who has not watched traders yet.

I know everybody watches it different times. We are talking traders for the next five minutes. So if you do not want to know spoilers, put us on mute for five or fast forward five minutes. Whatever. Yeah, and so that so Colton was saying, I know Rob is a trader.

Oh, Lizzie is back. Wait, first, oh, sorry. The trader. Hey. The trader.

“Lizzie, are you watching the traders or did you watch the traders?”

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. We're talking, talking just about briefly the reunion. And just Ronnie was asking, he's going to watch it tonight. He was just asking about, you know, Candace accusing Rob of leaking information to Colton.

And I was just explaining that Colton had said, like, apparently, I know Rob's a trader and whatever we should work together or something like that. But then Colton explained, no, I was just saying that because, you know, I don't know is a trader and I just said it. It sounded actually pretty innocent to me and the reunion.

Did you watch the reunion? I did, yeah, I agree with you. And I thought Rob's reaction was very, like, you know, like he literally said, you know that this show everything is recorded. There's cameras everywhere.

We're mic'd at all times, like, you know that didn't happen. If it had happened, I would have been kicked off the show. And I also just, I don't think he would have done that. I would have been so stupid. Like it wouldn't have made sense for him to do that.

He was playing so well. But I love his and his.

Yeah, his whole stick and the reunion was so funny because it was basically

You lied to my face and he's like, yeah.

It's the game. He's like, but yeah, I did. But you lied. He's like, I did, yeah. It's called traders.

It's called traders.

“And didn't she tell him something like, well, you know,”

when I turned on you, I had to, she said something like, I had to come for you because I was saving my game. And he's like, but you lost your game because of it. Yeah, you lost because of that. Yeah.

She did deliver one of the funniest lines ever in that reunion though. And it's like, it's off camera. It's just captioned at the bottom because you can barely hear it. But it's when Morris talking about how badly she wants the Berkin that apparently Rob is promised her because, you know,

hey, let her down. And she, you're just here Candace go, fuck the purse girl. He can't even buy a shirt. That's good, that is good. We laughed so hard at that.

Yeah, it was a, it was a perfectly nice reunion. I, what I've been really loving is the Rina and Rob reconnection. And they've been going out and about together. They have like a commercial that they did for Sonic. That's really good.

And I just, I do love how they are like this, this odd couple. It makes me, it makes me sad. They could not go all the way as traders and one thing in the reunion was that Rina and Candace were like, we would have got all the way with you. And he's like, I don't think you would have.

And they're like, we think you wanted you had no intention to go with us all the way. And he's like, no, I did, I did it. And eventually he's like, yeah, I wasn't going to ever go all the way. You guys. We have it also traders don't go all the way to the end with each other.

They just traditionally don't. I watched so many seasons this show now. And that's just not how it worked. You're supposed to screw each other ever.

“That's why in the beginning, they always say, okay, let's stay with each other as long as we can.”

They're always like, let's stay together.

You know, let's not go after each other right away. They say it every season. So it's part of the game, you guys. Like, oh, my big, oh, my big. There was like a nice moment between Rina and Andy Cohen in the reunion, though,

where she's because, you know, she talks about how it was so lovely to be able to not be on Beverly Hills and like be herself and on TV again. And I actually, I agree like it actually was really nice to see her this season. I thought I thought she was fun. But then she has this moment where she acknowledges that, you know,

like, she was the villain and Andy kind of like reaches over to her. And he was like, not the whole time. Like give yourself a little bit of a break and I thought that was interesting. Although Will, he still say that after her bonkers book has come out. Yeah.

I think he will because because the book came out and she has had all these things to say. Part of one of the things that has been getting a lot of press is that she, like, he, she was really upset that he took private text messages with her and just put them in his book. Right.

And that was like very, very upsetting to her. And actually something that came out in the reunion was that Portia was so mad at Lisa Rina for voting for her. That Portia went and destroyed all her Rina. Rina makeup.

Yeah. She broke all her lipsticks. She had them in a bag. She comes with a bag of like crushed up goo that was Lisa Rina lipsticks. And then Lisa Rina is like, it's okay. My company went bankrupt anyway. Yeah.

I think I got rid of mine too. I wonder if mine is still up there on my little grove and shared. There are now red and relics. Okay. So we're done with traders talk now. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to put in the chat. Okay. So we're done with traders talk. Um, but yeah, uh, Rina, well, this is traders, but it's not about spoilers. Rina said that at the finale.

Or at the whatever finale viewing party. At the abby that she was roofed and that Colton actually noticed that she was way too fucked up too fast. And got her out of there. He was too away and saved her life for me. So it all works out between those crazy.

Of course, people are online or like a Colton probably did it.

That was my first thought.

But I don't it's not it's not far off from many as we've been reading. No. I don't know what to make of him and the fact that Bravo put him back on TV. I got to know what they were expecting.

“You know, we we have access to the internet and some of us remember that whole situation.”

But yeah. Well, um, this is some breaking news. This actually just happened. What a couple hours ago, I think 54. I can't tell.

Monique. So Monique Samuels posted on threads. A lot of time has passed since the reunion was filmed. And after gaining more emphasis than I don't believe Stacey had anything to do with any of that bullshit. I'll probably go live on IG at some point this week and give you all the entire story.

I haven't watched a reunion episodes yet. So let me catch up and get back to you. But I at least wanted to clear her name on all of it. Well, after it's all done, I mean, but thanks. Well, that's good.

Stacey's had her name cleared on something.

That's good.

I'm glad to hear that because we.

We had a hard time believing that Stacey had a. We shout to Chris after Monique's conversation. So we'll definitely have to track that. Wow. Okay.

That's going to be interesting to watch. All right. Now let's check in with Kyle Richards guys. You know, every morning I wake up and I'm like, I'm going to my Kyle Richards is thinking right now. Ah.

So this is from Oliality. The famous French magazine. Kyle Richards reacts to Doreet bows and Rachel being so mean to Amanda. And shares her update on her status with Doreet. What do you think of this?

Kyle coming out and constantly standing up for Amanda saying that everybody's just being mean to Amanda.

Is she though I maybe I'm I might be going down my own. I'm stuck in a red at whole here, but I so I watched that. I'm gone. I watched that clip and see she's reacting to a comment and the comment is, you know, like, What do you make of how they say, like how mean she was to bows or how mean bows and Doreet and Sutton were to Amanda.

And the way that she responds is like, Oh, you know, I just hadn't really met Amanda before and I so I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

“And I think she just rubbed them the wrong way.”

And then she goes, but I guess you're really just going to have to see how that plays out. I wonder if if Kyle ends up hating Amanda. Like I can't tell where this is going to go and probably not because I know Amanda still talks about Kyle on, you know, watch what happens and everything. But that almost read to me like maybe there's something coming where Amanda really pisses everyone off including Kyle. I'm mostly say Kyle on the show so I can see all these comments come in.

Bar for moji. Kyle, I knew it's fast. Why Kyle? A Kyle bar for moji. So funny.

I think the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And I think Amanda and Doreet seem to be having a nice few that's brewing and and Kyle has this. It's been uneven with Doreet for the past few years. And I think Kyle does not want to look with the bad guy in that situation. And she's trying to be the nice one.

I'm the nice and I'm really trying what's read. I'm really, really trying, but she doesn't really like Doreet anymore. And she doesn't want to be seen as the one who's the aggressor or the one who'd be responsible that relationship falling apart.

“So I think she's perfectly happy to have Amanda there to me.”

Doreet's life annoying. She's not really seeing Amanda. She's seeing a cudgel wearing a two-two sideways over her neck. A cudgel. You can do it.

It's manifested. Oh my god. You know, the problem with Amanda Francis is that she's, she's insufferable. Obviously, I think that goes without saying. But she's also like correct a lot of the time which really sucks.

Like when she keeps defending herself and saying like, yes, I said that, but I agree. I was just agreeing with Kyle and then they roll the footage. It's true. Every single time she's saying that it is true. Like she's, she's not lying.

She's just really annoying. And she also is stirring things up. I don't know. I mean, I have to go. She's a total grifter.

But like, I'm enjoying watching her on the show. I think she's just so funny. And you know, when we did the crap, he's this weekend. We have our friend Katie who's a comic. She comes out and does all the songs and stuff.

She's like the band, the house band. And she dresses as the different characters from the year. And she had two from Beverly Hills Rachel Zoe who was iconic before the show. But probably even more now. And then she had Amanda Francis and her sideways two two over her head.

And so I think that's something. She's new, but people are already dressing up like her. I mean, having Katie dressed like you is like having a drag queen dress like you. So it's pretty good. We should all aspire to it.

Yeah, give her some credit. You know, I saw both doing an interview early because both in Amanda have been kind of going at it. You know, in an interview battles where, you know, Amanda went on to a podcast. And it was like, well, both is like, we need to meet about my business. But like, maybe she needs to look under why she's so mad.

Because like, her she has an online business. And it was losing money like she even told me. So maybe she should ask her why she's so jealous. And so they told both this and another interview.

And she's like, um, maybe Amanda should not worry about my business because my business is amazing.

“And, you know, if she, I understand that she would want to think that that's why I don't like her or that she's fishy.”

But that is not the reason. It's like, whoa. Both is so like, she gets her every time. When she drops those bombs, they're so good. Like, that's my favorite thing to watch this season is just both coming for Amanda in the most, like,

straight forward, you know, because everything she says is so right.

And I loved her face when Amanda was explaining, you know, her, her money techniques to her.

“And both was like, where's, where's the financial information?”

Like, where's the financial information? Like, where is the financial information? Yeah, what is this? It was, it was like horrified. It was, yeah, shit. Explain to us how you make money from that.

Um, someone is saying, uh, someone's asking on here. Did you guys see Amanda all much what happens? I did not. I saw that she was on and I didn't watch all episode. But I did see a clip someone posted to read it.

We had said, like, why is this woman so fucking psycho? And it just shows like a close up when I don't know if they're going to commercial, but Amanda just turns as stairs at the side camera and she's like, I'm just staring directly into the camera. Like for a full 30 seconds, and then just kind of looks away.

She's very strange. Well, they did a whole thing where they, they're like, can you, you know, tell us your regrets and they have like a regret counter. And she, of course, has zero out of like nine regrets.

And the other guest is, um, Gigi from the Persian Valley style.

And she's like, do you regret not having any regrets? And Amanda's like, no. And it's so weird. She's like a literal grifter on Bravo. And like, yeah, totally insufferable, totally terrible.

But the fact that she's bothering everyone is good. Because if she weren't there, I really don't know what would be happening on this season. The Beverly Hills. Also, to be fair, there are a lot of grifters on Bravo. She's just like, she's an open snake oil salesman.

She's, you know, she's literally pedaling like, this is my snake oil. And then other people are maybe hiding it a little bit more. And also she's doing really well with her grif,

“which I think, you know, once you've watched Bravo for a long time,”

and you've seen a lot of grifters, and we see grifters fail all the time. You know, the businesses don't work. They turn out to be fake. They go to jail. You know, whatever starts happening, it's nice to see somebody being so successful with grifting. Yeah.

Yeah, could we all do this? Yeah. So, this is kind of a random thing, it's time to end. But I did want to talk about this. Why is there wire to Rinda and Sally fighting?

Yes. This was my favorite story that you sent because it's so random. What is it? What happened? So, during an interview with Page Six Raid, oh, and by the way, this is such a Dorinda story because it's being reported on AOL.

Yes. Yeah. Because you know, Dorinda's like, could you reinvent the idea well that come? Anyway. So, I guess, I guess Dorinda said something or whatever that, like, Sally was like,

She's so mean to me. And so Sally was, like, telling people that Dorinda was mean to her. And then, I guess, on the show, Kiki asked Rinda, why are you being mean to Sally?

Because Sally was like, you know, I sent her a DM and she never wrote back.

She's so angry at me. Wow, she's so mean. And Dorinda was like, I didn't know what she sent me a DM. I know she never sent me a DM and Kiki was like, check her DM. And Dorinda was like, I'll be right back.

I'm going through the mailbox. No, that's outside. I think I'm on the Instagram, Dorinda. Yeah, and apparently she like, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, she did. And she's like, oh, she's very, very nice.

Very nice DM. So what I'll say is Charlie's a bitch. So, but you wrote me a very sweet, nice, adoing DM. It involves words like, I'm sorry. And you look beautiful.

And you know what? I'm just going to say Charlie's a bitch. Gary said it. Yeah. Charlie's a bitch.

No, no, no. I've been actually really enjoying her on Southern Charm. And Sally is just, Sally is just all over the place. I don't know. Yeah, Lindsay had like shady stuff to say about Sally.

And watch what happens live, too. Yeah. Is that, are Sally in Kyle? Is that a verified thing? Kyle Cook?

No. I thought that was a thing. I saw, okay, I'll look it up, Sally. I did Kyle Cook leave the crappies this year. And she don't as wife again.

Or was that just last year? Yeah. Thankfully, thankfully, no reports of anyone. That was so disappointing. I just, you know, sorry.

She's going to be a place that you can come cheat on your wife without getting pot. You know, like, I mean, I mean, like we should at least have that. We should be a refuge. Yeah. Okay.

So, Sally Carson addresses romance from Resident Kyle Cook. No. Oh. Yeah. And she also, by the way, she also slammed Whittner's lags ball as an entitled prick.

“So, isn't there something like political going on there?”

I don't know enough about this actually. With who you're talking to? With Sally and Whittner. I don't know. I don't know if there was something.

Yeah, maybe. I know that. Well, that's the speculation. They write that. She's really mad.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's, you know, obviously not. So, yeah.

That could be some of it, but Nina knows. Well, that brings us to the end of crappy hour Lizzy.

So much fun talking to you.

Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.

“Find Lizzy Bassett at Lizzy Bassett on Instagram and her podcast at what went wrong pod.”

And also, you can find what went wrong. Anywhere you listen to podcasts because it's like pretty big. And we were on the great gardens episode. So, go listen to that one. We had a great time doing that.

And Lizzy, thanks a lot. I hope we could to hang out with you again soon. Yes, please. And we'll have to do episodes for each of your favorite movies where things went horribly wrong. Yes.

All right, you're the best. We'll talk to you later. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Bye.

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