That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun! Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework! That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Recent Episodes
20 episodesCold w/ Judith McCreary
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary. SOURCES:ABC 13The New York TimesTampa Bay TimesVidocq SocietyPolice1CBS NewsMinnPostKIRO 7Medium WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Vidocq Society Next week’s episode will be “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Pursuit
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer." SOURCES:Wikipedia - To Catch a PredatorWikipedia - Gary RidgwayABC NewsThe Washington Postall that’s interestingThe New York TimesPeople WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Predators (2025) Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Let Me Bring Pardon
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility. SOURCES:ViceNBC NewsABC World NewsThe Arizona RepublicThe IndependentSlateWikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Responsible w/ Leven Rambin
This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin. SOURCES:ABC NewsCNNThe GuardianThe Today ShowNBC NewsBradenton HeraldPeople 1People 2Tampa Bay TimesWLTX19 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:FindTreatment.gov Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dance, Lies and Videotape
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Dance, Lies and Videotape” (Season 21, Episode 17). Plus, they investigate the Alexandra Waterbury case involving ballet and the non-consensual sharing of explicit images. SOURCES:BBCABC7NYNew York Post 1New York Post 2The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Stand With MinnesotaImmigrant Law Center of MinnesotaMid-Minnesota Legal Aid Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Spooked w/ Vincent Spano
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the episode, “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6), discuss the tragic Rachel Hoffman case, and interview the fantastic Vincent Spano. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Rachel HoffmanThe New YorkerABC NewsTallahassee DemocratWikipedia - Operation MongooseWikipedia - Operation NorthwoodsWikipedia - Los Zetas WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Throwaways by Sarah Stillman Next week’s episode will be “Dance, Lies and Videotape" (Season 21, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ripped
Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Plus, they discuss the tragic, steroids-related suicide of teenager Taylor Hooton. SOURCES:The New York Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Performance-enhancing drugs: Know the risks Next week’s episode will be “Spooked” (Season 11, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Rorschach w/ Jama Williamson
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6), discuss the horrific murder of Gabby Petito, and interview the delightful Jama Williamson. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Killing of Gabby PetitoAmerican Murder: Gabby PetitoForbesThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Gabby Petito Foundation Next week’s episode will be “Ripped” (Season 7, Episode 4). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chicago Crossover w/ Sophia Bush
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU/ Chicago P.D. crossover episode, “Chicago Crossover” (Season 16, Episode 7). They dissect the horrific Norwich sexual abuse ring. Plus, they chat with the iconic Sophia Bush. SOURCES:BBCThe GuardianIrish MirrorDuncan Lewis Solicitors WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Runaway Safeline Next week’s episode will be “Rorschach” (Season 26, Episode 6). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Wrath
In this episode, Liza and Kara recap the depressing episode,“Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Plus, they discuss “body farms” and "The St. Albans Poisoner,” Graham Young. SOURCES:FBI.govAll Criminal Justice SchoolsWikipedia - Graham YoungBiography.comThe TimesThe Guardian WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Psychological Impact of Wrongful Imprisonment Next week’s episode will be “Chicago Crossover" (Season 16, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? w/ Director Nancy Schwartzman
This week, Kara and Liza do something a little different. Instead of an SVU episode, they cover the fascinating new docuseries “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Plus, they chat with director Nancy Schwartzman. SOURCES:CNNWikipedia - Death of Ellen GreenbergDeath in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?People WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg? Next week’s episode will be “Wrath” (Season 3, Episode 2). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Pop w/ Audrie Neenan
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11), discuss the "Fight Club" phenomenon caused by the book and movie, and interview the legendary Audrie Neenan. SOURCES:The New YorkerHuffPostABC NewsNew York PostCourthouse News ServiceJustia U.S. LawLos Angeles TimesDuluth News Tribune WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:LiveYourDream.org Next week, Kara and Liza will be covering the docuseries, “Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?” Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Misleader
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode, “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17), and discuss the scandalous George Roche III affair at Hillsdale College. SOURCES:Vanity FairThe New York TimesWikipedia - George Roche IIIWikipedia - Hillsdale CollegeNational Review WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Toys For Tots Next week’s episode will be “Pop” (Season 12, Episode 11). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
They'd Already Disappeared w/ Blake DeLong
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “They'd Already Disappeared” (Season 23, Episode 7). They investigate multiple cases, including the infamous Anatoly Moskvin and his 29 mummified human dolls. And to cleanse the palate, they interview the incredibly talented Blake DeLong. SOURCES:Texas Department of Public SafetyFBI.govThe CutBBCThe SunThe New York TimesWikipedia - Harrison GrahamThe GuardianCNNCBC 1CBC 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‎Dollmaker:The Anatoly Moskvin Story Next week’s episode will be “Misleader” (Season 1, Episode 17). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Blast
This week, Liza and Kara recap the wild episode,“Blast” (Season 7, Episode 13), and discuss two crimes - the horrific Marion Parker case and the insane North Hollywood shootout. SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Marion ParkerChattanooga Daily TimesVisalia Times-DeltaAlbany Democrat-HeraldButterfly in the RainWikipedia - North Hollywood shootoutNBC Los AngelesLos Angeles Times WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:No Kid Hungry Next week’s episode will be “They'd Already Disappeared" (Season 23, Episode 7). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Desperate w/ Rob Estes
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Desperate” (Season 4, Episode 18), discuss the fascinating life of activist Faye Yager, and interview the iconic Rob Estes (Melrose Place). SOURCES:NYCLUFBI.gov 1FBI.gov 2Florida Department of Law EnforcementThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Times 5The New York Times 6A & EChild Abuse Solutions, IncNewsweekWikipedia - Faye Yager WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Underground Railroad, Inc. Next week’s episode will be “Blast” (Season 7, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Genes w/ Michael Torpey
This week, Liza and Kara cover the episode,“Genes” (Season 18, Episode 13), discuss the blackout murders perpetrated by Paul Cox, and interview the delightful Michael Torpey. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3Encyclopedia.comThe GuardianNew York Daily NewsCOX v. MILLER (2002) WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Is Sexual Offending Genetic? By Will Davies Next week’s episode will be “Desperate” (Season 4, Episode 18). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Russian Love Poem
Today, Kara and Liza discuss the early SVU episode “Russian Love Poem” (Season 1, Episode 12) and dissect the vicious bludgeoning of the Atlanta millionaire Lance Herndon. SOURCES:NBC NewsNBCUnited Press InternationalOrlando SentinelBETThe Atlanta Journal-ConstitutionTampa Bay TimesNPRPublishers WeeklyBaugh V. State (2003)Court TVMurderpedia WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Real Murders of Atlanta Next week’s episode will be “Genes” (Season 18, Episode 13). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Rape Interrupted w/ Anna Osceola
This week, Liza and Kara recap “Rape Interrupted” (Season 18, Episode 5), discuss the horrific Brock Turner case, and interview the wonderful Anna Osceola. SOURCES:The Washington PostAssociated PressStanford MagazineCNNVoxThe New YorkerThe GuardianWikipedia - People v. TurnerBuzzfeed NewsHuffpost WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Know My Name: A MemoirMagnolia Wu Unfolds It All Next week’s episode will be “Russian Love Poem" (Season 1, Episode 12). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Probability of Doom w/ Sarah Lynn Marion
In this week’s episode, Kara and Liza tackle “Probability of Doom” (Season 25, Episode 7), discuss the sympathetic crimes of Brigitte Harris, and interview the delightful Sarah Lynn Marion. SOURCES:PeopleNBC NewsWikipedia - Sheila LaBarreThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2Staten Island AdvanceNew York Magazine 1New York Magazine 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Rising Ground Next week’s episode will be “Rape Interrupted” (Season 18, Episode 5). Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3yb7hquSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.